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chuddo 10-28-2005 02:01 AM

small overpair hand
 
4 handed. 10-25

hero- 1500
villain - 3600
SB - 2600

UTG - Dealt Th-Tc

open to 85. button calls. SB calls. BB folds

Flop: 9h 5h 6s (Pot-280)

SB checks. You bet 280 pot. Button raises to 750. You?

sapster 10-28-2005 02:09 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
I think this entirely depends on the mode the game is playing in at the moment, but unless I feel there is a good chance villain could be playing back at me I think I cry and fold here.

Rootabager 10-28-2005 02:18 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
I always follow the advice my grandpappy had tattooed on his back. All in to Win.

sawseech 10-28-2005 02:19 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
put the rest of your money in

kagame 10-28-2005 03:34 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
Villains hand range that you beat:

A9, Axh (over and flush draw)

and that youre losing to:

65, JJ, 55, 66, 99, 78, AKh (any two overs and a flush draw)



What does this tell you?

edge 10-28-2005 03:41 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villains hand range that you beat:

A9, Axh (over and flush draw) AND A BLUFF


[/ QUOTE ]

Push it in. This is the kind of flop where people make moves against the raiser. You're pretty shortstacked, so there isn't much to think about.

Kirkrrr 10-28-2005 04:44 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
I don't play that game, but I don't see myself folding here given Hero's stack size and the huge range of hands that could be raising him that he's ahead of. I push.

Kirk

PS. How come you're playing w/ a short stack? That decreases your options.

KaneKungFu123 10-28-2005 05:42 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
without a read, i push.

flawless_victory 10-28-2005 07:45 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
cmon chuddo you told us, like, nothing about this hand.
generally, allin. pretty easy.

BTW/ PM me if you want your $20.

10-28-2005 11:46 AM

Re: small overpair hand
 
Would villain call here with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

I think that 9-8 makes this move here a lot, too.

I'd make that play with the nuts though so it looks like I dont have the nuts.....

I'm pushing in this spot against most opponents.

kagame 10-28-2005 12:04 PM

Re: small overpair hand
 
it tells me my opponent has to be capable of bluffing for me to make this call

dont you guys at LEAST have tracker stats to help make these type of decisions?

on what boards do you fold marginal overpairs? your hand is basically just TPTK

chuddo 10-28-2005 02:26 PM

Re: small overpair hand
 
results:
i was neither hero or villain in this hand and was observing to see if the game was good.

hero was an unknown and villain was a regular poster in this forum.

hero got the rest of his money in, villain obviously calls.

villain shows AA and stacks the guy.

when the hand went down i was trying to think about whether or not i get stacked often in that same spot with TT/JJ.

any thoughts on villains pf call with AA? also, if villain would like to comment if there were any extenuating factors for how he played the hand.

Ulysses 10-28-2005 03:31 PM

Re: small overpair hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
also, if villain would like to comment if there were any extenuating factors for how he played the hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, based on the responses in this thread, I stack everyone except kagame. Seems like a decent result.

edge 10-28-2005 03:34 PM

Re: small overpair hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
on what boards do you fold marginal overpairs? your hand is basically just TPTK

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't make a habit of folding TPTK or a weak overpair when I'm shortstacked. I guess I could fold if I had a read on Villain as really boring/nit, but with no reads I'm not giving up TT. Maybe UB plays really differently than Party though; I can't say.

flawless_victory 10-28-2005 04:22 PM

Re: small overpair hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
also, if villain would like to comment if there were any extenuating factors for how he played the hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, based on the responses in this thread, I stack everyone except kagame. Seems like a decent result.

[/ QUOTE ]well, he doesnt give us details about the villain, or where the game was played, dynamics. etc..
if we had kniown it was you, i think alot of ppl would say fold.


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