Winrate Threads
 

A few regulars have expressed some frustration over the winrate threads....what does everyone else think?

Re: Winrate Threads
 

we need a sticky that says:

5-10NL: >3 good
>5 very good
10-20NL: >2 good
>3.5 very good

LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM

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This sums up all win-rate questions. I don't see what else there is to gather from discussing it 50000 million times.

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I think they are helpful, but they can all go into brags beats and variance. Perfect form for them. Here they just clutter.

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They wouldnt be so painful if people just answered them straightforwardly. I don't see what the big deal is about someone saying "I made Xbbs at 5-10 over 100K hands." If 10-15 regulars simply responded along those line, we could reach a reasonable estimate of what a good winrate is and these threads would die quickly.

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we need a sticky that says:

5-10NL: >3 good
>5 very good
10-20NL: >2 good
>3.5 very good

LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM

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And it would be nice if someone defined LONGTERM in the sticky too. Some people think this is 50k, and have no concept of variance/std dev and confidence intervals. Putting the formula in the sticky would go a long way IMO.

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What's wrong with winrate threads? I have always been extremely curious to learn how much others make.

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What's wrong with winrate threads? I have always been extremely curious to learn how much others make.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree 100%. If you are annoyed by winrate threads, guess what, don't read them. A thread titled "Avg. Winrate of a full time 5-10 player?" isn't too hard to figure out it's going to be winrate discussion. This is similar if fsuplayer makes a thread, I know it'll be garbage so I can easily skip over it without reading it [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I agree also.

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i was beginning to think i was shooting at a helpless target. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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What's wrong with winrate threads?

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Agreed. There is usually something gained from them other than just a simple >3.5bb/100 rule.

I think if people posted winrate threads and there were only a couple of regulars posting comments such as "buzz off" or "wrong forum", or throwing up the AZK sign, then deleting would be warranted.

But of you look at many of the winrate threads, they are fairly long, so obviously something is being discussed.

I think as long as people put winrate in the subject, those who want to avoid them can.

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we need a sticky that says:

5-10NL: >3 good
>5 very good
10-20NL: >2 good
>3.5 very good

LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM
LONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLONGTERMLO NGTERM

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ptbb or bb?

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PT

you're not running at like 10PTBB in the 2k are you?

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stating the obvious

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good, just checking if anyone else was also.

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what i find interesting is how much easier it is to sustain higher winrates at 3/6 and 2/4 than these bigger games

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what i find interesting is how much easier it is to sustain higher winrates at 3/6 and 2/4 than these bigger games

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Why is this interesting, this is expected. PPL suck at my level, calling off with TPTK

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I hate the winrate threads.

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I hate these threads and they usually die on their own but im amazed on how long they last.

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PT

you're not running at like 10PTBB in the 2k are you?

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Excuse my ignorance but could you clarify that? I saw somewhere else that there is a difference but what exactly is the difference?

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i like 'em because they motivate me

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a PTBB = 2 x BB.

so in the 10-20NL games. a PTBB is = $40.

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I like that a thread about whether or not we should have win rate threads has actually turned into a win rate thread.

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what babe?

the babe with the power