Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
Hello my 2+2 Mentors,
What do you do when you have ... lots of potential but no results. I should note that I'm a losing player with AKs lately. I've been going over the AKs posts on the forum and I think I overplay AKs by a wide margin. 3/6 600NL Hero (18/9) (VP$IP/PFR) has $600. Villan is a winning player 30/12 who has me covered. Hero has AcKc UTG+1. I’m mainly here to beat up on the BadBB who is a 48/7 who is throwing money away. UTG folds Hero bets $24. UTG+3 folds MP1 calls $24 (no reads) MP2 folds Villan Calls $24 Folds to BadBB who calls $24. Pot = $103 Flop 7c As 3c Okay what do I do here? I have 3 callers I’m in the worst position but I have TPTK and a nut flush draw. I decide to bet the pot since I want to get the hand over with soon since my position sucks. Hopefully he BadBB will call. Hero Bets $103 MP1 folds Villan calls $103 BadBB folds. Pot $309 Turn (7c As 3c) 4d Ok I got called what do you do here??? I bet half the pot (is this a mistake with TP TK?) Hero Bets $150 Villan Calls $150 Pot $609 River (7c As 3c 4d) 6s I didn’t get my flush, What do you do? |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
pf and flop ok, c/c turn, c/c or c/f river depending on odds he gives you.
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Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
Half potting turn STINKS. Either check to keep the pot small and see what people behind you do, or bet enough to fully commit yourself by potting or overpotting to price out all the draws.
On the turn you make your decision, you're either going to the felt with the hand or you're bailing. I'm not saying this is an easy spot, but 1/2 potting b/c you're not sure is not the answer. |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
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Half potting turn STINKS. Either check to keep the pot small and see what people behind you do, or bet enough to fully commit yourself by potting or overpotting to price out all the draws. On the turn you make your decision, you're either going to the felt with the hand or you're bailing. I'm not saying this is an easy spot, but 1/2 potting b/c you're not sure is not the answer. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for your input. I'm trying to get a handle on pot size control via bet size. I don't really understand why half potting the turn stinks. I half potted since I figured there are no draws that I'm really afraid of. I'm obviously not concerned about the flush draw and it seems very unlikely that there is straight. Plus there are no overcards to my aces. So I figured it's partially a value bet and partially a semi-bluff. Is my logic screwed up? derick |
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pf and flop ok, c/c turn, c/c or c/f river depending on odds he gives you. [/ QUOTE ] Why c/c the turn? |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
Because he will bet both weaker and stronger hands, If you fire again on that turn I think only hands that are beating you call or come over the top.
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Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
How about checkraise pushing the flop? That's a pretty all-star move.
Edit: Or bet the flop like you did and checkraise push the turn. |
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Paris Hilton in bed. [/ QUOTE ] this thread is worthless w/o pics |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
I like bet 3/4 pot on flop and check raise all in on turn.
If he checks behind on the turn, thats fine also. |
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bet enough to fully commit yourself by potting or overpotting to price out all the draws. [/ QUOTE ] Why on earth would we want to price out the draws? I think I like a turn c/c. Lead a flush river. Bet/Fold, check/call or check/fold is player/pot odds dependant on a blank. Turn check/call lets him bet a lot of worse hands, and I think most aces look you up when you block river. Edit: Added more than a one liner. |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
I'm not familiar w/ that game as I have only played nl live so I am curious of the following question. IS it common for player w/ villains profile to overcall a $24 bet pf w/ 77 (or 33) or A7(or3)s?
And if he had a set, or 2 pr., wouldn't you have likely heard from him on the turn when you bet only 1/2 the pot on a draw heavy board? W/ the pot at $459, I would expect him to try to take it down after you bet the turn if he was confident you were behind. I think he probably had AQ and would be willing to call $200 on the river. I think you can pot the turn as you don't mind taking it down even if he has only 3 outs and you have plenty of hand to call an all in raise for only $164 more in a $927 pot when you are behind. |
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the reason the river is terrible is because of your betting
when you think of a betting line, think of what youre trying to accomplish personally, i would LOVE to be all in on the flop, and if not the flop, then the turn would also be nice if you feel the same way, think about how to accomplish this vs a person holding an ace |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
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Hello my 2+2 Mentors, What do you do when you have ... lots of potential but no results. I should note that I'm a losing player with AKs lately. I've been going over the AKs posts on the forum and I think I overplay AKs by a wide margin. 3/6 600NL Hero (18/9) (VP$IP/PFR) has $600. Villan is a winning player 30/12 who has me covered. Hero has AcKc UTG+1. I’m mainly here to beat up on the BadBB who is a 48/7 who is throwing money away. UTG folds Hero bets $24. UTG+3 folds MP1 calls $24 (no reads) MP2 folds Villan Calls $24 Folds to BadBB who calls $24. Pot = $103 Flop 7c As 3c Okay what do I do here? I have 3 callers I’m in the worst position but I have TPTK and a nut flush draw. I decide to bet the pot since I want to get the hand over with soon since my position sucks. Hopefully he BadBB will call. Hero Bets $103 MP1 folds Villan calls $103 BadBB folds. Pot $309 Turn (7c As 3c) 4d Ok I got called what do you do here??? I bet half the pot (is this a mistake with TP TK?) Hero Bets $150 Villan Calls $150 Pot $609 River (7c As 3c 4d) 6s I didn’t get my flush, What do you do? [/ QUOTE ] I check, Villan checks and shows 77 for the set. I'm dumfounded. What is going on here????? |
Re: Paris Hilton in bed but can\'t get wood. AKs TPTK NFD
you're lucky he is a donk. if he had raised the flop, you insta push, and you're 50% against a set.
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