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1800GAMBLER 09-03-2005 08:10 PM

What motivates you?
 
What motivates you to play lots of hours of poker? This is mostly aimed at people who have played 2+ years and are now bored of the game.

Rubeskies 09-03-2005 08:22 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
$$$

toss 09-03-2005 08:23 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Money.

Klepton 09-03-2005 08:39 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
i bought a house

now i need to make money to pay morgage payments

Alobar 09-03-2005 08:41 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
bills

PokerCat69 09-03-2005 08:41 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
money

spamuell 09-03-2005 08:43 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
I love the psychology and intricacy of the game.

lol no, it's money.

Although seriously I do enjoy moving up and getting comfortable playing against better players for higher stakes, that motivates me.

wheelz 09-03-2005 08:50 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
$$$

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TStoneMBD 09-03-2005 08:59 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
1) gun to my head
2) 9 players with 60 VPIP

1800GAMBLER 09-03-2005 09:11 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Well this thread was pointless.

Jdanz 09-03-2005 09:13 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
nh. Money.

Klepton 09-03-2005 09:27 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
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Well this thread was pointless.

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sorry dude, but if i could make half the money i am making now doing something else, i probably would...cuz this job isn't that fun

but i'm getting fcukloads of money, so i do it

1800GAMBLER 09-03-2005 09:39 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Yours was the only reply i thought none pointless. Everyone saying just money (no [censored]?) seemed pointless. I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

TylerD 09-03-2005 09:48 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
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Yours was the only reply i thought none pointless. Everyone saying just money (no [censored]?) seemed pointless. I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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They probably would so the answer is "more money" = greed.

(not excluding myself)

Sponger15SB 09-03-2005 09:50 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
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They probably would so the answer is "more money" = greed.

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So having a big savings account is greedy?

Seth Money 09-03-2005 09:53 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Ok honest question, honest anwswer. I hated working for the man. I love the fact that I have complete freedom 24 hours a day to do what I want. If I want to go golfing one day I do, if I want to travel I do. The freedom alone is worth it. And some day down the road when I have a family I know that I will have money set aside from a game that I love.

Short term motivation.

I love the thrill of winning tournaments. Its like golf to me you can never be the best even though we all strive for perfection.

And like all of the prior posts the financial part is a bonus because it trully opens up doors for other avenues of our lives, I know there are to many things I want to do in my life that I couldn't probably write it down in a day... Ok I'm out.

Seth

TylerD 09-03-2005 09:58 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Not really the same thing:

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I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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Greed - An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

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James282 09-03-2005 10:00 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
To secure financial security for my future family.

A desire to be the best I can be at something.

A worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever.
-James

TylerD 09-03-2005 10:02 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
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A worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever.

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thats a good one.

popesc 09-03-2005 10:06 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Ninety percent of the population is complete morons. Morons should not be allowed to have too much money.

Morons with too much money are attracted to poker. Without a competent player at the table, the morons will just push their money around. Eventually the house will get it all in rake. I play poker to take money from morons faster than the casino takes rake.

Of course, if I ever make enough money, I'll buy a stake in a casino.

wheelz 09-03-2005 10:28 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
ohhhh I get it.

OK, a worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever, a way to make money so I can convince my parents that I should take time off from going to school, a way to make money so I don't have to work at a real job, and a way to be able to afford the fancy stuff that I always wanted to buy. I also just like to be good at things... I love playing poker, so I want to become a great player. The money is obviously the more important part though.

Schneids 09-03-2005 11:06 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
1. I hate schedules and the 9-5 life. Poker lets me avoid that.

2. I want to secure financial independence. Moreover, doing that through unique unconvential means has a lot of appeal.

3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

helpmeout 09-03-2005 11:17 PM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Money makes money so if I can make a lot playing poker then I can make a lot from doing little later from investments.

Freedom is the main one for me. If I wanna stay up to 2am and watch cricket I can. If I wanna go on holiday for 3 months I can.

Destiny is in my own hands, I do not need to work for the man. I dont need to suck up to anyone.

The challenge of the game, outplaying people who are good is a necessary ego boost.

sublime 09-04-2005 01:29 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

Is this fear based on anything? I am not asking to be a wise ass, but because I respect what you have to say.

I have a more optimistic view of the future. Mostly based on America opening the gates to online gambling sites.

Justin A 09-04-2005 01:30 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
My wife.

09-04-2005 02:18 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
I have a series of daily/weekly/monthly/and even yearly rewards set into a three year financial plan I created.

This plan includes rewards for meeting savings goals/hand goals/retirement goals/and so on. It also includes a set amount of hands to play every month, and this number varies, so if I do 50k one month I only need to do 30k the next.

My entire plan is based around me winning only 1bb/100 and getting HALF the rakeback I usually get.

The rewards I set for myself are small and non bankroll consuming...like if I meet my daily hand goal each day I play in a 6 dollar sub qualifier for the party cruise, or if I hit my weekly goal in hands AND money I give myself 100 to play in multi qualifers the following week....etc

I also have rewards built in I only get if I don't spend over my monthly nut (which usually isnt a problem as I have a 500 dollar leeway built into that anyway)

The weekly and monthly rewards are usually based around tournament entries (Like if I go over my $goal by x I give myself x amount of Sunday multi qualifiers). From those entries I EXPECT to lose everytime, and anything I win goes 40% into bankroll, 40% into savings, and 20% for me to blow on toys (but not completely useless [censored])

I find that this is a cheap way to stay on track, so when I wake up I'm not thinking "I hope I can get in a lot of hands today"...instead I think the night before "Tom I need to play about 2 2.5 hour sessions to stay on track" and I can plan my day accordingly.

Lastly, I also give myself time to play other games if I'm feeling bored with limit hold em, as I find mixing things up keeps poker fun

I have been playing seriously for three years now, two for my primary income, and have found through trail and error the rewards/goals system to be the best strategy to stay motivated and make each day purposeful

09-04-2005 02:20 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
What motivates you to play lots of hours of poker? This is mostly aimed at people who have played 2+ years and are now bored of the game.

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If you are bored of the game then play a new game. You can make plenty of money playing Omaha or stud or SnG's

Nigel 09-04-2005 04:09 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i bought a house

now i need to make money to pay morgage payments

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Klepton,

Just curious, how did you manage to buy a house? Aren't you a fairly young guy with no job and I'm assuming (based on your personal confessions) not much credit history?

Not trying to flame you, just genuinely curious as to how/where you purchased. PM please if you prefer not to respond here.

Thanks,

Nigel

wheelz 09-04-2005 05:23 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
screw pm, i'm interested too.

Spaded 09-04-2005 05:32 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Ditto.

creedofhubris 09-04-2005 05:39 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
screw pm, i'm interested too.

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Even if you're young, buying a house is fairly easy if you pay cash. Legal tender for all debts public and private, yo.

Incidentally, Jay, that's my motivation right now: I'm buying a house with my fiancee, paying for a wedding and honeymoon next year... right now I've got enough for that, but not enough for that AND a 10-20 NL bankroll AND the travel I've become used to lately.

Ideally, I'd like to sock away enough $$ before the poker boom ends to retire. That would be a lot of money, which means a lot more hours and hands than I'm playing now.

Nightwish 09-04-2005 06:01 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Money. But maybe I'm different because after 3+ years, I'm still not bored of the game.

Nightwish 09-04-2005 06:08 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
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I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

[/ QUOTE ]
Cause I'm [censored] greedy! This is one of the few jobs in the world where your product is money, not some gadget that you later sell for money. Seeing the money roll in, particularly after a big positive session, is all the motivation I need to keep on playing.

This is what distinguishes this job from just about any other one. Even in my poker coaching side business -- which is still about poker -- the motivation goes beyond just making more money. It's only in poker itself that the motivation is all about money.

Equal 09-04-2005 06:12 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
I like the fact that your renumeration is "honourable" - the better you do your job, the more you get paid. I have spent time at jobs where no matter how much harder or better you did your job over the next guy, you got the same pay.

shant 09-04-2005 06:22 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
To answer your question, my brother did not purchase this real estate fully on his own. He has help in co-signing from me and another family member since he is too young to have enough credit and work history.

Michael Davis 09-04-2005 06:46 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

Yeti 09-04-2005 07:01 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

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Sadly this is pretty true for me also.

1800GAMBLER 09-04-2005 09:09 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
I love you.

Tosh 09-04-2005 09:52 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
Absolutely nothing, thats why I haven't been able to play for a long time.

Tosh 09-04-2005 09:53 AM

Re: What motivates you?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

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That hit home tbh. Most of what I do these days is just because I can't be arsed to make much effort to do anything else.


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