Do you take a deal?
 

Inspired by the drugs in Vegas thread, if you get busted with some drugs, whatever you do, do you rat out a dealer in order to avoid jail time? Assume the cops are offering to let you go with only a warning if you give up the name of the person you got it from and testify in court against them. Also, why do you/ do you not?So as not to skew the results, I'll add my thoughts on this in another post.

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this is not specific enough - i need to know if i am friends with the dealer.

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Yes! awesome, I dont even like drugs and I was the first to vote.

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The unscrupulous nature of the dealer leads me to believe that he wouldn't do the same for me.

As such, [censored] him.

p.s. I avoid this situation by not getting busted with drugs. Everyone stays happy.

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this is not specific enough - i need to know if the dealer wil [censored] me up

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this is a weak poll

If I'm holding an eighth of bud I'll take my punishment from the fuzz no problem, if I've got a kilo of coke on my I'm taking me chances with the dealer.

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No.

No lower form of life than a snitch. They deserve to die. I'd rather be in prison with the rep I kept my mouth shut than outside with the rep of being a rat.

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No.

No lower form of life than a snitch. They deserve to die. I'd rather be in prison with the rep I kept my mouth shut than outside with the rep of being a rat.

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My "dealer" is smart enough to make sure I don't have enough information about him to do any real damage. I don't think I even know his real name. This is how you remain a professional drug dealer for a long time, methinks.

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the fact that it's 70/30 in favor of ratting out the dealer makes me not want to befriend anyone in this forum. that is totally weak dudes. man up and face the fact that you were stupid enough to get busted.
even if you were charged you wouldn't get that much, nothing compared to what the dealer would get. too many giant vaginas in here.

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ere stupid enough to get busted.
even if you were charged you wouldn't get that much, nothing compared to what the dealer would get.

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How long the dealer spends in jail is of much less concern to me than how long I spend in jail.

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who cares how long you get. it's your damn fault for getting caught so give your balls a squeeze and face the repercussions. if the possible penalty scares you enough, then don't carry drugs in the first place.

also if i was the dealer you would probably be dead when i got out. by that i mean you'd already be dead.

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As Ray alluded, there are definitely a lot of factors to lookg at.

I would like to say that I'd never rat on anyone, but if I don't really know them and I am facing a big sentence, I would probably crumble.

IMO the interesting question is at what point do you break. Doing one year would probably not be so bad, but 5? 10? Thankfully I don't do bad enough drugs in big enough quantities to have to worry about something like this

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No.

No lower form of life than a snitch. They deserve to die. I'd rather be in prison with the rep I kept my mouth shut than outside with the rep of being a rat.

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are you serious? I can't even tell. this isn't high school. this is real life.

life someone else said, the right answer depends on the severity of the sentence and the badassity of the dealer. I'd lean towards snitching generally.

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Getting caught is a risk of doing drugs. Getting ratted out is a risk of dealing drugs. I don't see why anyone is concerned about "honor" when it comes to a trade so dirty and illicit as hardcore drugs.

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No.

No lower form of life than a snitch. They deserve to die. I'd rather be in prison with the rep I kept my mouth shut than outside with the rep of being a rat.

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hope you're a tough dude or that "mouth shut" thing ain't lasting long

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No.

No lower form of life than a snitch. They deserve to die. I'd rather be in prison with the rep I kept my mouth shut than outside with the rep of being a rat.

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Good, because I would love to ass rape you.

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this is not specific enough - i need to know if i am friends with the dealer.

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hear hear, listen , some shady dude gives me bud and then i get busted, away he goes, Someone Like ray passes me a bone and I get busted, [censored] I grew it my self.

I'd never give up my regular guy though thats jsut way wrong. And plenty of us in the "know" knew a dealer/friend who got busted cause someone was a puss and he got ratted on. Lossing a good connect is like the worst thing ever....

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I should have clarified on the dealer. I always buy from guys I am cool wiht, hang out with before or after a deal or just because. I can see how if you run the anonymous crap or get from some stranger you could rat, maybe. If you go to a regular dealer, it should not be an option.

I especially find it amusing that people say the more you have the more likely you are to snitch on your dealer. If you are getting caught with a Kilo and you rat on your dealer you would be dead.

A good friend/hook up/ guy from high school's hook up just got pinched and is looking at 10-20, had the option to go down to 2-5 for giving up his clients or his supplier and did neither. If you can't be prepared to do that, you shouldn't be doing drugs. I agree with whoever it was who said that they wouldn't deal wit/hang out with alot of people based on these results. It ain't High School, its real life. You rat on someone they don't wait for you by the flag pole, they give some guy $500 and you get shot.

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No, unless it is some savage circumstance like you would goto jail for life if they found you with an 8th. But in that case you are better off not making any shady drug deals in the 1st place. Ratting out is about as low as it gets when it is oftentimes your own fault for getting busted.

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Wow, I am stunned that the large majority would choose to rat. Now I can't say that I wouldn't freak out and rat if I was facing a long jail sentence, but it would still be the wrong thing to do. If you are buying drugs, you are part of the drug trade, and you can't use the excuse that "drug dealers are shady and they deserve it" to excuse ratting them out. If you really believed that dealing drugs was so terrible, you shouldn't have bought them in the first place. Of course, there may be exceptions, but as a general rule I would just take the punishment.

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If you are getting caught with a Kilo and you rat on your dealer you would be dead.

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All I know about drug dealing is what I see in movies, so I'm ignorant -- but if the dealer was big enough to have you whacked for ratting, couldn't you be placed in Witness Protection?

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Are we talking about white collar resort prison or Federal pound me in the ass prison??

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Tell you what. I work at 111 Huntington Ave. in Boston. I get to work via the mall entrance every weekday at about 7:50 AM. It's not real crowded then. Why not come and try, dweeb.

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Good, because I would love to ass rape you.

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Tell you what. I work at 111 Huntington Ave. in Boston. I get to work via the mall entrance every weekday at about 7:50 AM. It's not real crowded then. Why not come and try, dweeb.

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Can you guys finish your business here instead?

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this isn't high school. this is real life.

No it isn't High School, and in real life there are consequences for your actions. If you *voluntarily* take part in the illegal activity, then you've already chosen what side you're on.

I'm not a kid. I'm 54 years old, and if you're word is no good, if you're a snitch, then you don't deserve to live. Period. No discussion. No special circumstances.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

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No it isn't High School, and in real life there are consequences for your actions. If you *voluntarily* take part in the illegal activity, then you've already chosen what side you're on.

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How does this not apply to drug dealers? They know there's a non-negligible chance of getting ratted out when they deal drugs. Its one of the risks of the job.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

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It is a risk of dealing, but then that's why getting shot or shivved is the consequence of ratting. The dealer accepts his fate and then shoots you for it.

On a side note, one of my best friends lives with a guy that deals (same one whos hook up got popped) He sleeps with a gun on the night stand because he got robbed (shot guns masks, open the safe or we shoot you kind of thing)and is ready to use it if someone comes in. There is already a plan to liquidate all drugs from the house should this happen. My buddy gets hammered at my house and decides to drive home. That was wrong in the first place. He gets there and fumbles with his key then stumbles into the place and starts running into the tables trying to get to the couch to collapse. His roommate comes downstairs and has the gun on him when my buddy manages to hit the light switch and keep himself from getting shot.

Story Number two, a dealer I know lived with 4 friends. One roommate got into not paying rent and generally being a dick. The other 4 threw him out. The day he moved out he picked up the dealer's personal supply of the real good and left with it. The dealer had good suspicion it was him, went to his place and discovered it was still in the guys pocket. This is the kind of guy who if he got beat up would call the cops. So he got stabbed. Stabbed good too.

Neither of those involve jail time. Think what the dealer would do if he knew he was going to jail. If you think snitching is ok to do because "drug dealers are bad people", remember those bad people will do bad things to you.

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It is a risk of dealing, but then that's why getting shot or shivved is the consequence of ratting.

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Right, right, I completely agree. But if I'm looking at 10 years, I am probably not likely to come out of jail without being stabbed or getting AIDS anyways. I'd much rather take a chance against the dealer when he gets out than take my chances in prison.

Also, I'm assuming this dealer is a midlevel guy, not a very high level guy. If he has serious connections with Colombian cartels or mobs or something, it definitely changes things.

Also, I pretty much only know things about the drug trade that I've seen in the media.

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If you are lookin at 10 years you are probably the mid level guy.