What about a 2+2 \"league\" for WSOP 2006 seats?
 

Not sure where to post this one, so anyone feel free to move it if you can.

I can put this together if enough people are interested. We may have to
open it up to other forums to get enough people. I'm open to suggestions as
well.

We have weekly NLHE tournaments with say a $20+2 fee. We withhold say $200 from
each event (held by the poker room) and pay out the rest. If we start in December, we will have roughly
7 months, or 28 weeks before WSOP 2006. That could be 28 tournaments.

We have a leaderboard, top 10 play a 1 table tournament for a WSOP seat or 3-4
preliminary event seats. Or, the last tournament could be just one big supersat
to give away as many $1,500 seats as possible (with entry fees plus all the
withheld money).

We could adjust the numbers however we want. We can increase what is being
withheld or just withold $200 and play for more preliminary event seats.

Let me know everyone's feedback.

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I for one would definitely be interested.

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I would be interested in something like this.

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As long as we make commercials with random guys sprinting around their neighborhood yelling "We're gettin the league back together!!!111" I see no problem.

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I would be interested in this.

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i'd do it

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I'd be down...oh wait, i'm 19... uhh nevermind :P.

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id do it if I was 21...

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I would be interested, however, if I were to run such a league I would do it so we ran sats to a $500 or $1000 '2+2 main event' which people could buy in directly and run a $30+$1 satellite or $50. For a once a month tourney we could probably easily get 2 seats a month into the main event sat and likely give away a few $12,000 packages.
~Justin

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I would be interested, however, if I were to run such a league I would do it so we ran sats to a $500 or $1000 '2+2 main event' which people could buy in directly and run a $30+$1 satellite or $50. For a once a month tourney we could probably easily get 2 seats a month into the main event sat and likely give away a few $12,000 packages.
~Justin

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it seems like KKsuited's idea was to just give out not-main-event seats.

i think i'll be sticking to party/stars/bodog to try to win my wsop seat, but I would be interested in some sats to the smaller events through 2+2.

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I would be interested, however, if I were to run such a league I would do it so we ran sats to a $500 or $1000 '2+2 main event' which people could buy in directly and run a $30+$1 satellite or $50. For a once a month tourney we could probably easily get 2 seats a month into the main event sat and likely give away a few $12,000 packages.
~Justin

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i think more ppl would be interested in playing smaller tournaments (i.e. $20 @ 100 ppl, take out x% for the tlb). if i want to play a 1k satellite to the wsop, i'd certainlly be able to find something better than a 2+2 tourney, and i think most ppl here would have that attitude. on the other hand, the smaller tournaments not only reward the players for playing that specific tournament, but there is also the incentive of playing each week, consistent performance, bla bla etc.

also, i'm sure you could probably convince one of the sites out there to help out/setup/hold $ for this type of thing

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This sounds like it would be tough to pull off, but I would definitely be interested if we could get something off the ground.

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This sounds like it would be tough to pull off, but I would definitely be interested if we could get something off the ground.

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I am in the same boat

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I'm in for this. No doubt.

Peace

Goodie

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I think it is a great idea and I would definitly play. What site is it going to be on. I suggest P Stars.

Cars

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I think the biggest issue people have with WSOP stuff as run by the various sites is the large field (usually) right? Especially proportional to the buy in. Therefore, the advantage of a 2+2 tourney could be lower buy in and less people (but also steeper payout).

What about a weekly $100 buy in, capped at 550 people? That means a 55k prizepool, with 4 seats (at 12k each), and divide up 7k among 6 people. This is more or less how a regular 100+9 on party ends up (its usually a smaller field I think, but whatever).

I think it would be cool to keep it private until an hour before it starts. I don't know if this is possible on stars , but set the conditions of the tourney to be capped at 550, password protect it until an hour before, then let anyone in.

I don't see a problem in letting fish in, as long as those 2+2ers who want to get in, do. Why not let them contribute a little? The key is to make sure the cap is there. It could theoretically fill with 2+2ers anyway.

Running sats would be cool too.

Obviously we could play with the numbers, but the idea is just to reward the final table.


edit: Oh yeah, and since we get to set the rules right? Definatly needs to be at least 2k to start and 20 minute levels or something.

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benneh - my idea was to have tournaments for the Main Event or for the prelim events. We can do either, I was just saying "dependng on the interest". If lots of people want to do it for Main event seat, let's roll. If not, we can give out prelim event seats.

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keep the idea's coming and I'll start working on making this happen.

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Dave D, I don't think your idea is bad at all, but my only concern would be getting enough 2+2 people to play $100 events each week. If we get 30 2+2er's and 400 other people, what's really the point?

You can find sats to the WSOP all over the place. I was just thinking a "league" or leaderboard type thing for 2+2er's only would be really cool. Almost like having our own little tour, with WSOP seats on the line at the end.

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Dave D, I don't think your idea is bad at all, but my only concern would be getting enough 2+2 people to play $100 events each week. If we get 30 2+2er's and 400 other people, what's really the point?

You can find sats to the WSOP all over the place. I was just thinking a "league" or leaderboard type thing for 2+2er's only would be really cool. Almost like having our own little tour, with WSOP seats on the line at the end.

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I think a fair amount of 2+2ers wouldn't bother with the leaderboard at the end of the year because they've already qualified in other ways. Maybe I'm giving us too much credit tho [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It's not a bad idea to just keep track of who won. Reasons to hold our own tourney, even if its largely (or even mostly) not 2+2ers and/or why our tourney is different than other tourneys out there:

1. Don't give out cash, only seats. Ie no winning twice, and keep people out who have won already. I think we'd probably write that somewhere so everyone sees it. That means *at the least* you can't win in this tournament twice . I suppose people who haven't won our tourney would play it, and still play other tourneys, but at the least we'd have mostly people who haven't won a seat yet. I don't know if it's possible to literally ban people who have already won, but at the least we could just not pay them, and pay the next person instead. I think a fair amount of people who play WSOP stuff are doing it just hoping for a cash prize. $12k is a pretty good prize, especially when you can get it for 8th place or whatever. This cuts those people out.

2. I was saying in my original post. Keep the buy in relativly low while still having a good payout. $100 is (I think?) 40% of what party and all them usually make the buy in if I remember. Determining our own payout/tourney structure is important.

3. Knowing much of the field is 2+2ers. Knowing they're mostly (?) good players. Other tourneys don't really have this.


I just think making a weekly tourney that only costs $100 to enter but is very feasable to do well in has an appeal in itself. The other tourneys cost at least twice as much, and have bigger fields.

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i still think it should be a league type of idea w/ a tlb system

also, it should be 2+2 only. i think part of the point is to have a 2+2er to root for, etc

another idea is, if it goes the way of top 10 tlb ppl fighting for the seat, winner gets the seat and the other 9 get 1% of the wsop action? something like that? just a thought so everyone gets a little something (or at least has an invested interest in the winner!)

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I'd be interested as long as we keep it in the 50$ and under area. I got better things to do with my money than lose it to the sharks here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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good idea dm, on everyone at the FT getting a piece of the player.

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Some quick math....

1 tourney per week, prizes split amongst say.... top 4 or so players. 50% of buy in taken each week (this is a hurdle for the site, trust me! Most sites will not want to hold money for you, in fact I don't know of any that would) If a site wouldnt you could make it a $10 buy and $10 to get the password and have an account solely for WSOP funds.

So 28 weeks...
Average 50 players per week = $500 in prizes each week, $500 into WSOP pool

$500 x 28 = $14,000 in WSOP Dollars to be split amongst top 3 or 4.

Jack the entry up to $15 and $15 and the pool rises to $21,000 (much better in my opinion)

I would be happy to host the leaderboard on my web space and start to help KK get things in motion with Pokerstars to do this. I can set up an independent playing account soley for the WSOP funds as well and give 1 other persos access to it if I am not around on a tourney day.

Run a variety of tournies and count top 15 towards final score using a modified TLB system. The one plus that sending it to a WSOP account would bring is that we would be paying less vig on a $15 MTT than a $30 in which half is withheld, so we are building the prize pool quicker.

Is this what you are thinking of KK?
~Justin

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Sounds like fun. I'm ready.

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that sounds excellent. one other thing is i think you should try to have the league finished up around 2 months prior to the ME. that way you don't have 6 out of the 10 ppl having already won seats.