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Alright, which one of you maggots did this??

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Jd Qc (one pair, nines).
Outcome: BB wins 12.25 BB. </font>

Re: Own up! (low content)
 

This link should make you feel better.

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i agree with everything in this hand other than that i might have folded preflop.

flop and turn looks good but once the 9 hits the river the only hand youre splitting against is A8. the rest youre losing to.

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What is BB's screen name? Looks like a sweeta clone. Unbelievably poor or tilty play.

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Wow. That's one helluva hand. Maybe he thought he *ahem* flopped the straight? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

We haven't had many of these types of posts in MHUSH yet...since excessive traffic hasn't been much of a problem yet I'm content to let them die on their own since they usually only last a day or 2. Anyone have any objections to that?

Surf

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ban hm!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol wtf?

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flop and turn looks good but once the 9 hits the river the only hand youre splitting against is A8. the rest youre losing to.

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Actually you're still beating QJo

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flop and turn looks good but once the 9 hits the river the only hand youre splitting against is A8. the rest youre losing to.

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Actually you're still beating QJo

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and JTd but really I think the way the hand played out you kinda have to fold here. Give credit to whoever it is, sometimes you just get owned

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Just to add insult to injury:

Bad laydown. Your turn flatcall and river fold are totally inconsistant. A8 is a significant part of BBs range here. You're getting better than 6-1 for a split.

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Just to add insult to injury:

Bad laydown. Your turn flatcall and river fold are totally inconsistant. A8 is a significant part of BBs range here. You're getting better than 6-1 for a split.

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Most of the hands that hero is calling down to hope to beat are overpalyed AK/AQ-type hands. We now lose to those because of the river 9, the fact that we now chop with A8 is the only upside.

Surf

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Just to add insult to injury:

Bad laydown. Your turn flatcall and river fold are totally inconsistant. A8 is a significant part of BBs range here. You're getting better than 6-1 for a split.

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Most of the hands that hero is calling down to hope to beat are overpalyed AK/AQ-type hands. We now lose to those because of the river 9, the fact that we now chop with A8 is the only upside.

Surf

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I think AK/AQ type hands bet/call the turn way more often than checkraise given the flop action, and set/top 2 type hands would bet/3-bet the turn more often than checkraise. Regardless of how often he takes this particular line with a hand that sucked out on the river, the fact remains that his holding will be A8 more often than 16% of the time assuming he is a reasonably aggro blind defender preflop. And there's always the ~2-3% chance the guy was getting frisky with KK-TT or air and the OP wins the hand outright.

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Ah2c 12.5 % 0 6
A9,A8,AA,22,88,99,AK 87.5 %

http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/s...amp;h4=&amp;h5=


this simulation is only over 24 trials. seems way off to me. i cant see our pot equity being 12.5% against that range in which were splitting against 1 hand and losing to the rest lol. could someone pokerstove this for me? mine is broke.

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dude, threebets on turn.

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I'm getting 12.5% too.

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Heh, well the point of this post is that I thought the opponent was a 2p2er. Maybe I'm wrong, since nobody owned up (or had the balls to). The guy was DumbAnimal. I'm playing on a trip in Asia, so I have no stats. Feel free to lol at me if the guy is 65/45 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].


Anyway, for flawless, I was popping on non counterfeiting river cards. I'm not asking repentance for the fold, it seems we all agree it's fine.

Cyas

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I don't know if he's a 2+2er or not(he's probably not a poster), but he's usually solid and I think he also plays 200/400 and 300/600 HU Omaha 8 on Ultimate bet.

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dude, threebets on turn.

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hi

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Wow. That's one helluva hand. Maybe he thought he *ahem* flopped the straight? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

We haven't had many of these types of posts in MHUSH yet...since excessive traffic hasn't been much of a problem yet I'm content to let them die on their own since they usually only last a day or 2. Anyone have any objections to that?

Surf

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The great thing about this forum is that even the low content posts have high content.

Nice to have a little conversation about how often plays like this get made at the higher level -- when you know that people can make the Big Laydown, being a complete idiot with nothing may be more profitable than it otherwise should be. On a run-of-the-mill 3/6 or even 5/10 (and probably 10/20) table, nobody folds top pair on the river, regardless of the action.

For instance, anyone here ever coldcall a raise on a paired rainbow flop, 3+ players seeing the flop, with nothing, thinking that you can pick up the pot with a bet or raise on the turn and get the flop raiser to fold his top pair or pocket pair (or good ace or whatever) bcs you're representing trips and he knows that's the only thing a Reasonable player would coldcall with?

EDIT: Check out TSTONE's "You'll probably hate this" hand for an example similar to that I'm talking about.

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For instance, anyone here ever coldcall a raise on a paired rainbow flop, 3+ players seeing the flop, with nothing, thinking that you can pick up the pot with a bet or raise on the turn and get the flop raiser to fold his top pair or pocket pair (or good ace or whatever) bcs you're representing trips and he knows that's the only thing a Reasonable player would coldcall with?

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Yes, but it's bloody expensive when they call you down with an overpair.

Krishan

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For instance, anyone here ever coldcall a raise on a paired rainbow flop, 3+ players seeing the flop, with nothing, thinking that you can pick up the pot with a bet or raise on the turn and get the flop raiser to fold his top pair or pocket pair (or good ace or whatever) bcs you're representing trips and he knows that's the only thing a Reasonable player would coldcall with?

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Yes, but it's bloody expensive when they call you down with an overpair.

Krishan

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Yeah, I noticed that too . . .