My first trip to the Wynn poker room (long)
 

I didn't explore the property... just the poker room.

The room is very close to the self park garage, close enough to restrooms, and way away from slot noise. The room is very nice and there's much more room between tables than at the Mirage. The dealers were pretty good for the most part, again better than the Mirage.

I like that they have screens showing the wait/interest lists. I didn't like that they were inserting people ahead of me in the list, saying they had called and someone had forgot to put them on. Took half an hour to get seated at 8/16 HE at 8p night before Thanksgiving. There were two tables of 8/16 going.

My table was full of rocks and locals. At one point, everybody knew each other except me... I'm in from out of town visiting family for the holiday.

Cocktail service was TERRIBLE. Worst I can remember, honestly. They didn't do a good job of keeping the table full even though there was a list, despite repeated reminders. Rate reduction is at 6 players. Rake is max $4, with the fourth dollar dropping at $90 pot. No peculiar rules or anything to speak of.

Dealers ignored requests by various players to keep the game moving. We had one guy for a bit that took 20 seconds to act every single time action was on him.

The game eventually juiced up with some tourists and alcohol and I was fortunate enough to clear a 30+ BB profit in 6 hours.

Overall, I wasn't wowed by any stretch. It's nice to have another option on par with the Bellagio, and they were generally nicer at the Wynn than at the Bellagio, but maybe I was expecting something more.

-Ritmo

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The cocktail service was excellent when I was there last. My $5-10 NL table was also very soft.

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Both rooms feature good games, but the Wynn staff are MUCH more pleasant to deal with.

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They didn't do a good job of keeping the table full even though there was a list, despite repeated reminders.

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I experienced the same there.

15/30 table got down to 7, then 6, then 5 players.
Somebody told the floor for about the 5th time.
There was a list of 12 players for 15/30 on the screen.
Finally, one peeved-off player suggested we stop playing until they do something about it (I could have played or not played...either way).
Went to men's room and then made a phone-call during our little intermission. Came back 10 minutes later and they still hadn't gotten players for our game. Took another 5 minutes after that.

No idea why they weren't doing it. They would acknowledge that they heard the request and then not make any kind of announcement.
Their poor dealer that down was getting pretty screwed as he can't make anything in tips if the game isn't going obviously.


No freaking idea what their problem was.
they kept calling players over to their 2/5 NL game. Then would still forget to call for the 15/30 seats.
It was pretty stupid.


Cocktail service was very good when I was there though.
This can really vary depending on the day and time.
If a couple call in sick or it's near a shift-change then it's generally going to be a long time to get a drink.

drink service at the bellagio (for example) was generally decent when I was there....but there were other times when it was non-existant.

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Both rooms feature good games, but the Wynn staff are MUCH more pleasant to deal with.

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Both rooms feature good games, but the Wynn staff are MUCH more pleasant to deal with.

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I agree. Never going back to the Bellagio for me.

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I agree. Never going back to the Bellagio for me.

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photoc...what games do you play there? I'm usually in the 15/30 nowadays...if you're around we should at least shake hands. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I'm usually in the 15/30 nowadays...

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I was in the Wynn 15/30 on Tuesday in the evening (about 5 to 10 PM)... Were you there? (I also played in the 8/16 and the mixed game on Sunday.)

This was my first trip to Vegas in over a year... If I have the chance, I might post a little more of a trip report later...

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Made my first trip to Vegas this week, too, and I also played at The Wynn for four days.

I found the cocktail service to generally be acceptable to good.

Most of the dealers were good, and a few were very good (note that one insisted that if I let the button pass me when moving from a must-move table, that I'd have to post). A couple of the dealers didn't do a good job of dealing with players getting out of hand.

I also appreciated the fact that the poker room was far removed from the gaming floor. No dings, bells, beeps, whistles, or cigarette smoke wafting in from afar.

The play was as bad as one might hope, with most of the tables I played at having 1-3 good players, at most. There were certainly some sharks, of course, and it was easy to spot the people that either post here or should post here. :-)

One problem I found was that they put the 15/30 games into a chain must-move, no matter how many tables were in play. At one point on Wednesday, there was a four-table chain, and nobody was happy, including the dealers.

Another note: The tournament structure for the daily tournaments was outstanding. I believe that has been posted about in other threads, but it bears mentioning again.

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The Wynn staff was pleasant?

The staff that was plucked and cherry picked from MY CARD CLUB, CANTERBURY????

I HAVE INEXPERIENCED JOE BLOW DEALERS SAYING ALL RED BEATS TWO PAIR WHILE YOU MILK ALL MY GOOD DEALERS FOR VEGAS???????....GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I do feel the quality of Canterbury has gone down slightly with the loss of so many of our good floor and dealer people - I knew that excellent staff would be one of the Wynn's selling points from the beginning - glad to see they're not letting me down or making me look like a liar [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

RB

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.

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Hi.
Long time B+M reader here, but from the UK with little live experience.
Can you explain what the problem was here as i don't understand.
Cheers

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.



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Hi.
Long time B+M reader here, but from the UK with little live experience.
Can you explain what the problem was here as i don't understand.
Cheers

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Ben:

The live games here in Atlantic City in the $3-6, $4-8 structure all use $5 chips, which makes for smaller table stacks. Butt for some reason the games in LV are all with $1 chips. Don't know the reason - when you win a huge pot it takes forever to stack the chips in front of you. I don't particularly don't like to waste time stacking my own chips - Unless I'm leaving the table!

Regards,
BA

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.

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They should not allow red chips on the table in 4-8 (unless you have so many blue/white that they don't come into play).

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.

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99% of the time someone sitting down in a 4-8 game with all red chips is coming from a different game and will want some blue chips. When you refused it’s entirely reasonable for the dealer to think that maybe you sat down at the wrong table, something which happens all the time.

You sound like you were going out of your way to be a dick and cause a problem.

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The only remark negative that I have about my experience at the Wynn was the following.

I bought Red chips for $100 at the window - to enter the $4-8 TexasHE game, a game which I guess in LV is primarily played with $1 chips.

Sat down at the table when called to play.

No greeting from the dealer.

Except the following -

"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".

No tips to this dealer when I got those blue chips.

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Hi.
Long time B+M reader here, but from the UK with little live experience.
Can you explain what the problem was here as i don't understand.
Cheers

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There is no problem. The dealer did nothing wrong. He's just being a jerk.

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"Give me some of your Red chips..."

I replied - "No."

"This is a $4-8 game", he says.

I confirmed with, "I know".



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You sat at a 4/8 game with red chips? That's just rude and dumb. Why do you want to keep pots small? Are you afraid of having a lot of chips to handle or what?

Regards,

T

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Bummer about your experiences there. I played there during the week of Thanksgiving and had none of the problems you experienced.

I played 4/8, 8/16, 15/30 and found them all to be pretty good. The 2/5 NL game was really rocky, though. Very little action. The 15/30 was filled with regulars, fortunately, the regulars weren't very good. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I've never worried about playing against local regulars; I'm not sure why anyone thinks that those player are somehow better.

The cocktail service was just fine where I was. And the floor staff did a good job while I was there. Dealers were generally good.

The only problem I continue to see there is the size of the chairs. They're nice, but they crowd the tables.

Regards,

T

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Guys:

I don't know how you can say that I'm a jerk or a dick looking for trouble because I didn't want to change any red chips for blue chips.

I like playing with red chips - Whats the big deal?

Isn't the dealer job to deal the cards? If he wants to change my chips maybe he should work in a bank or a credit union...

Anyway. After this dealer left...
A female dealer sat down. I had a few whites chips by now and used red and white in combo when betting. So whats the big deal???

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Guys:

I don't know how you can say that I'm a jerk or a dick looking for trouble because I didn't want to change any red chips for blue chips.

I like playing with red chips - Whats the big deal?

Isn't the dealer job to deal the cards? If he wants to change my chips maybe he should work in a bank or a credit union...

Anyway. After this dealer left...
A female dealer sat down. I had a few whites chips by now and used red and white in combo when betting. So whats the big deal???

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No big deal, you're just a typical east coast B&M prick/nit. There's a lot of you about.

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No big deal, you're just a typical east coast B&M prick/nit. There's a lot of you about.

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Gee whiz...

I wonder why they dont fumigate us at McCarron before we step outside into the real world.

Maybe they should give us free condoms as well.

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The redeeming factor of wynn is uncapped nl buyins. A limit player will not realize that benefit.

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I like to have small stacks in front of me, so when I play $4/8, I usually have more red chips than most. (That would be true anyway, because I am an Undisputed Worldwide Poker Champ and I rule.)

However, you should never be having to make change. I like to have at least 50 $1 chips so that I always have the correct amount for bets. If you didn't have at least 30 or so at all times, then you're slowing down the game, and that's a bad thing.

As fas as I'm concerned, the dealer was just doing her job.

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Guys:

I don't know how you can say that I'm a jerk or a dick looking for trouble because I didn't want to change any red chips for blue chips.

I like playing with red chips - Whats the big deal?

Isn't the dealer job to deal the cards? If he wants to change my chips maybe he should work in a bank or a credit union...

Anyway. After this dealer left...
A female dealer sat down. I had a few whites chips by now and used red and white in combo when betting. So whats the big deal???

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I've thought a lot about your post in the last couple of days -- I'm funny that way.

The short version is that from start to finish, you made a lot of assumptions that are only reasonable if you're a child, and I am choosing my words carefully.

The long version:

1.) The dealer's job is to run the card game, and that includes keeping the player an eye out for player chips in order to keep the game flowing in a manner that the card room has established as normal.

2.) Clearly -- and I mean it's as clear as it could possibly be -- this particular card room normally uses $1 chips for the 4-8 game. An adult should be able to adjust to changing circumstances, and you should have been able to ascertain what was going on.

What kind of nit would you think me if I walked into your card room and demanded that I play with only $1 chips when I was brought a rack and a stack for my $200, and was a jack ass about it to boot?

3.) The only thing the dealer could have handled better was greeting you and better explaining to you why he was asking you if you wanted to change your chips instead of expecting you to grasp the situation.

4.) Your story makes you appear to be a spoiled nit.

If I sound confrontational, I apologize, but I think it important to point out how unreasonable you are being.

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red chips are gay.

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red chips are gay.

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Nope red chips are cool but 4/8 is gay. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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can someone clarify for me why you would possibly need red chips in a 4-8 game? there are 2 betting rounds which you could possibly use them, but you could just as easily use blue. and there are situations where you HAVE to use blue, this logic leads us to using blue chips. anytime i got red chips in vegas i traded them for blues immediately.

rj

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Red Chips are only usefull if the guy building a tower with his chips needs a beacon at the top.

I thought the Wynn was great.

The OP sounds like one of those people who calls the dealer "Dealer", which always bugs me.

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you would need them if you are gay.

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I sit down with 20 Red chips...

I don't know how long I will play. It just might be one hand, it might be a couple.

I don't have a rack. And I don't to carry a rack if I don't like the table.

As it turned out after the second time I posted my Big Blind I had enough blue chips that I wasn't slowing no game down.

And It the beginning the "dealer" can change my blind bets how he wants.

But because of his attitude I didn't give hime a tip - Thats my perogative!

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Wholeheartedly agree...

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The live games here in Atlantic City in the $3-6, $4-8 structure all use $5 chips, which makes for smaller table stacks. Butt for some reason the games in LV are all with $1 chips.

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And smaller looking pots.

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Don't know the reason - when you win a huge pot it takes forever to stack the chips in front of you.

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This is exactly the reason. The bigger appearing pots tend to stimulate more action -- that's the theory anyway. People have pointed out over the years that one of the reasons $5-10 live played with $5 chips isn't that popular is that the pots look small and this tends to kill the action. That's why casions will spread $4-8 and $6-12. Sort of strange numbers for bet sizes but the larger number of chips in the pot tends to stimulate the action -- at least that's the theory.

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I don't particularly don't like to waste time stacking my own chips - Unless I'm leaving the table!


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I think it's your perogative to use $5 chips but making change does slow the game down a little but as you stated you accumulated enough $1 chips to mix em with your $8 bets. You also have the option to color up as you go along if you get too many $1 chips in front of you. Anyway I don't think you're a dick and hopefully my explanation will shed some light as to why $1 chips are preferred. A lot of people when they bring $5 chips in and that's all they have will get $20 or so of $5 chips converted to $1 chips.

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I like that one of the channels in your hotel room is the poker wait list.

You don't even have to call down to see what games are going, or how many.

Its the little things.

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The Wynn is the [censored]. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] it and F the haters and the Bellagio.

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But because of his attitude I didn't give hime a tip - Thats my perogative!

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It is also your prerogative not to tip any non-white dealers. However, if you choose to adopt this policy, people will call you a jerk, and they will be right.

The same logic applies here.

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It is also your prerogative not to tip any non-white dealers. However, if you choose to adopt this policy, people will call you a jerk, and they will be right.

The same logic applies here.

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The only jerk here is you blantantly wanting to make this a race issue...

Next thing you going to tell me don't the waitress because she's a dwarf
and can't reach the poker table...

A tip is a acknowledgement for service - not an automatic discharge of funds from my pocket!