A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

30+3, 870 entrants, 500ish left

So what's important here is my past 2 hands. My concern is that the pusher on the last hand thinks I'm bluffing now because obviously raising 3 hands in a row means that. Generally this table has folded to my raises, or I've gone HU so people have respected my raises and probably see me as pretty tight.


So the previous hand it folds to me on the button, I raise 3x the BB to 150. I have 2360 before the raise. BB calls and on the flop he checks to me and I 2/3 bet the flop and he folds.
Very next hand this happens.

Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SeGaMeSu ( $1705 )
Seat 3: dogling ( $2535 )
Seat 5: sdlowe21 ( $1215 )
Seat 8: freddieo ( $2720 )
Seat 9: losealota ( $780 )
Seat 4: Blackjackag ( $290 )
Seat 2: LarryCope1 ( $1995 )
Seat 7: tmase ( $2735 )
Seat 10: mhobbs_bbt ( $1145 )
Seat 6: craylock ( $700 )
Trny:14835104 Level:4
Blinds (25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dogling [ Kd Ks ]
tmase raises [100].
freddieo folds.
losealota calls [100].
mhobbs_bbt folds.
SeGaMeSu folds.
LarryCope1 folds.
dogling raises [400].
Blackjackag folds.
sdlowe21 folds.
craylock folds.
tmase calls [300].
losealota is all-In [680]
dogling raises [1100].
tmase folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Qd, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
dogling shows [ Kd, Ks ] a pair of kings.
losealota shows [ Ad, Kc ] high card ace.
dogling wins 720 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
dogling wins 2035 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Player losealota finished in 464 place
losealota has left the table.



Now, my question is what I should do with this:

Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: SeGaMeSu ( $1705 )
Seat 3: dogling ( $3790 )
Seat 5: sdlowe21 ( $1190 )
Seat 8: freddieo ( $2720 )
Seat 4: Blackjackag ( $290 )
Seat 2: LarryCope1 ( $1995 )
Seat 7: tmase ( $2335 )
Seat 10: mhobbs_bbt ( $1145 )
Seat 6: craylock ( $650 )
Trny:14835104 Level:4
Blinds (25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dogling [ Tc Ts ]
freddieo folds.
mhobbs_bbt folds.
SeGaMeSu calls [50].
LarryCope1 folds.
dogling raises [200].
Blackjackag folds.
sdlowe21 folds.
craylock folds.
tmase: damn
tmase: jj
tmase: would of got it all
SeGaMeSu: go 4 it
tmase is all-In [2285]
SeGaMeSu folds.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

I think this situation is pretty unusual considering what usually gets talked about around here. I gotta bump it.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

Given your image here, don't you have to lay this down? You're only showing premium raises, and he still chooses to push? Pretty sure I fold and tell myself he had KK...

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

Well the issue is more that I've raised about 3 hands in the last orbit not including this one, and only shown one. The pusher may think I'm bluffing this time, raising with junk and trying to be a table bully because suddenly I have a big stack. But I have Tens, which isn't a monster, but is still a good hand. I see villian's range as just about anything because he thinks he can push me around.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

They're still tens and it's a big percentage of your stack. I'd wait for a better spot.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

This looks like a good call to me. He's pissed about the JJ he just folded, you have him covered, and you are better than 50% equity against a reasonable hand range for villain.

You're also nowhere near the money. If you knock out 2 players back-to-back, and your table doesn't break, you gain a huge psychological advantage.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

That's my thought process...

But they're still tens...

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

I can never figure out the psychology of people that push all in for so much more than the pot.

He is obviously afraid to play the hand post flop. If he had AA or KK, don't you think he'd just call the raise, and try to get more out of you on the flop?

Does he have AA, KK, or QQ, and afraid of having it busted post flop? Does he have 72o, hoping to just win the pot right there, because his hand can't take a flop?

What causes people to overbet so much preflop?

I was considering making a thread on this earlier, but this dovetails nicely with this hand right here. I simply can't get my mind around it.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

I don't see a player capable of folding JJ the previous hand making a play like this with a better hand. He's not going to want to drive you out if he has you beaten now, imo.

Yeah they're only tens, but you're more than a little ahead (63%) if you drop JJ+ pairs from his hand, so it's a +EV call.

If he told you he had AKo, would you call?

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

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I don't see a player capable of folding JJ the previous hand making a play like this with a better hand. He's not going to want to drive you out if he has you beaten now, imo.

Yeah they're only tens, but you're more than a little ahead (63%) if you drop JJ+ pairs from his hand, so it's a +EV call.

If he told you he had AKo, would you call?

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What if he wants it to look like he's on tilt/bluffing so that I call and he actually has a high PP?

He could be lying about the JJ.

Easy call if he has AK. I'm 60/40 to win and getting better than 1:1. If I lose, I still have a stack.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

I would probably call...and he is mad he didn't call as a huge underdog so that he could suckout a runner runner straight so I wouldn't put him on the 4 hards that have you beat...and if he did then I wuold say "damn...I knew you had that had but I was counting on winning with a runner runner straight".

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

That's true about the JJ lying, but I wouldn't completely discount it, because he did call the initial raise, and fold to your isolation re-raise, so it also "looks" like he had JJ.

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Easy call if he has AK. I'm 60/40 to win and getting better than 1:1. If I lose, I still have a stack.

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2 high cards or an underpair will be what he flips most of the time here. So call.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

I'll post the pretty irrelevent though somewhat surprising results tonight. I'd like to get a few more responses before then as to what my thinking should be.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

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What if he wants it to look like he's on tilt/bluffing so that I call and he actually has a high PP?


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I love this play as the villain, and use it whenever I can.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

Oh yeah, villian had queens and MHING.

guess I gotta remember that for next time.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

Villain is complaining that he folded JJ last hand and would have made a str8 to win pot, so let's put him on semi-Tilt for missing a big opportunity with a decent hand.

While he might want to play back at you with 77 or 88, I think it’s more likely you’re looking at 2 over cards for your best case and an over pair at worse.

I’d drop it here.

Re: A run of cards and your adjustments...
 

Jack21, I have had those thoughts so many times. "why would you do that? It makes no rational sense." I agree with many of the thoughts posted in this thread. I just can't see him playing AA/KK this way. While QQ and JJ are possible, they are still less likely to be played this way than AJ/KQ/etc. I think that villian's range lens much more heavily towards hands that are slighlty behind. Let us not discount 55-99 too. I think that this is a "thoughtful" call. That is, when you do the math and think about how villian would "likely" play hands, this is a call.

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