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cnfuzzd 07-08-2005 08:08 AM

Am i overplaying?
 
just checking, i have this lag inside me that takes control alot

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP folds, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

peace

john nickle

TylerD 07-08-2005 08:16 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
looks good to me.

did he have AA?

Transference 07-08-2005 08:19 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
I don't think so. I usually lead the turn but I like the c/r. Against a LAG I think slowing down early on the turn would be atrocious.

spydog 07-08-2005 08:39 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
While it looks good because he just called your turn CR, what do you do if he 3-bets the turn?

I think you need to lead the turn and call down if he raises. You are giving him a license to punish you severely with trips when you CR the turn.

mtdoak 07-08-2005 09:07 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
I like a bet/reraise line on the turn here. And start cursing if your capped.

PokerBob 07-08-2005 10:14 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
Once BB caps the flop I say [censored] , lead the turn, say [censored] again if raised and call down. You are either looking at KK or AA here, and one is 16 times more likely than the other.

car ramrod 07-08-2005 10:45 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
Just curious, what hands do you put BB on that he would play this way. I don't see him playing AQs like this.

I would tend to think AA, QQ, or JJ.

Noone thinks to call down after the flop cap?

PokerBob 07-08-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
[ QUOTE ]


Noone thinks to call down after the flop cap?

[/ QUOTE ]

I did, but I figure I gotta fire again on the the turn. But now I'm not so sure. Meh.

obithrawn 07-08-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
I also like to lead the turn and call down if raised.

Do you plan on folding to a turn c/r?

SCfuji 07-08-2005 12:32 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
why are you a lag with KK =[. i think this hand looks good. after he calls your turn check raise you win.

PokerBob 07-08-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
[ QUOTE ]
why are you a lag with KK =[. i think this hand looks good. after he calls your turn check raise you win.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't. I think he says, "[censored], this [censored] flopped a set of Q's" and calls down with AA.

MAxx 07-08-2005 12:41 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
I lead the turn and a call down a turn raise... especially with no reads. The cr is nice but a 3bet puts you in a bad spot, bc you dont feel you can fold and you dont like your prospects either... but you have seen others overplay often enough that you cant fold this heads up. So I like the bet/call here. Also, while it may not be super likely....you dont risk the turn getting checked through.

obithrawn 07-08-2005 01:01 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
When I say turn c/r, I meant turn 3 bet.

Redd 07-08-2005 01:24 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
I'm confused - does Villain have AQs/JJ more than half the time after capping the flop? I've been generally c/cing turns in this position, which is apparently a leak?

JrJordan 07-08-2005 01:32 PM

Re: Am i overplaying?
 
If he had somehow capped preflop instead of you then I'd feel more comfortable check/calling after the flop capp since his hand range becomes much more narrow.

With just his 3-bet, I have to give a hand like an over aggro AQ/KQ a much more likely chance. I lead the turn and call down from there if raised. I'm not good enough to fold the over pair HU if my turn c/r gets 3bet.


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