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KN0CKAH0MA 12-12-2005 12:53 PM

A10s Button play??
 
4/8 Live Game -

You hold A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the button. 5 players call.
I would like to get a few views on whether you would call, raise or fold this hand??

12-12-2005 12:57 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Easy raise.

suited aces 12-12-2005 12:58 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Raise.

crunchy1 12-12-2005 01:00 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
I'm eyeing up which 8 chips I'm going to remove from my stack before anyone even limps in...

12-12-2005 01:03 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm eyeing up which 8 chips I'm going to remove from my stack before anyone even limps in...

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This answer is far superior to mine.

KN0CKAH0MA 12-12-2005 01:12 PM

Flop Play??
 
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG+1 bets, 2 callers. Call or Raise??

Thanks for the feedback.

Solid_p 12-12-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG+1 bets, 2 callers. Call or Raise??

Thanks for the feedback.

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise, raiser or raise?

KN0CKAH0MA 12-12-2005 01:14 PM

Also, PairOfElevens...
 
that pic is great!!

crunchy1 12-12-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG+1 bets, 2 callers. Call or Raise??
Thanks for the feedback.

[/ QUOTE ]
Did you call or raise PF?

KN0CKAH0MA 12-12-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
I raised PF. Sorry I didn't include that bit of info. Thanks.

crunchy1 12-12-2005 01:49 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
I'd raise.

12-12-2005 02:14 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG+1 bets, 2 callers. Call or Raise??

Thanks for the feedback.

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise.

12-12-2005 02:38 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Raise, you have a huge equity edge against 5 players in position with ATs.

You should also raise that flop, and take a freecard on the turn unless an ace or club falls. If utg 3 bets and the callers fold you should just call, if the callers call 2 cold cap.

JojoDiego 12-12-2005 02:58 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
Raise, you have a huge equity edge against 5 players in position with ATs.

You should also raise that flop, and take a freecard on the turn unless an ace or club falls. If utg 3 bets and the callers fold you should just call, if the callers call 2 cold cap.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm thinking we should NOT take a free card on the turn, but bet to protect our Ace out.

SenecaJim 12-12-2005 03:20 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
I play 5-10 live, games are usually nice and loose. In my game I'm raising this from anywhere. If 5 are in before you and the blinds I'm cc'ing with this hand as well.

With that many players in and no raises your pf equity is huge.

damaniac 12-12-2005 03:31 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Er, I don't think our A high is the best hand very often here, and even less so on the turn assuming we don't pair up. Even when it is, the opposition is drawing thin: any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] pairing outs they have are dead, and often they'll have a worse A or something. There's not much of a reason to bet into 3 opponents on the turn if you miss.

brettbrettr 12-12-2005 03:46 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Ummmm, raise?

12-12-2005 04:17 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Raise preflop, and totally massively obviously definitely raise that flop. For sure. All day. Forever.

JojoDiego 12-12-2005 04:41 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
I was looking to kick out A-10, A-J, A-Q, A-8, and A-4 in case we pair our Ace on the river. Though perhaps any big Aces would've raised PF (and therefore don't exist in this hand), and A-8/4 probably isn't going anywhere for one bet.

newhizzle 12-12-2005 04:51 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
raise every time, both other options are incorrect

ATo is a much more interesting question

newhizzle 12-12-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Flop Play??
 
also raise the flop every time

the main reasoning behind both a preflop and flop raise is that you have an equity edge, ther are other flop advantages to a raise, like you might get a free card on the turn

WillMagic 12-12-2005 07:50 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
How the hell does this thread get twenty replies? This is the biggest thread on the front page and it's simple as hell.

Will

Bill Smith 12-12-2005 09:12 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
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How the hell does this thread get twenty replies? This is the biggest thread on the front page and it's simple as hell.

Will

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I don't know, but here's 21...

silkyslim 12-12-2005 09:19 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
[ QUOTE ]
How the hell does this thread get twenty replies? This is the biggest thread on the front page and it's simple as hell.

Will

[/ QUOTE ]
22

12-12-2005 10:51 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
raise

12-12-2005 11:26 PM

Re: A10s Button play??
 
Finally, a question that I know the answer to...this is just a gratuitous "raise" post. Now I only need 1586 more till Pooh-Bah status.


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