Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
UTG+1 is 23/14/1.8
First round at the table Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (7.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls. River: (11.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets Final Pot: 13.25 BB I think I should have checked the river. What do you think about every street? why is my type in red? |
Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
I'd check the river and sigh when he turned over QQ.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
your type is red because you never ended: ([)color:"#CC3333"]
preflop fine: flop: there are merits to just calling here HU and raising the turn and checking behind the river. raising the flop is fine but what do you do when he 3bets you with that draw out there? thing is he could have AKdd, TT-AA with wieghts hevier towards the AA than the TT. i dont mind calling the flop. Turn: not the best idea imo if you plan on betting the river, to show it down at that point for 2 bets is fine. i think id just call the turn and call river. River: check behind. Barron |
Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
He's raised an UTG limper indicating a strong hand and youve re-raised that indicating a very strong hand. Therefore I think he probably puts you on a big pair or AK. He still capped it pre-flop, and despite you raising the flop, he still comes out betting the turn. I think you'll be shown a better hand far more than 50% of the time when you bet the river.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
What about AhKh? Does this player have a history of donk betting after being shown aggression? If not, the turn donk bet (especially since there was no 3-bet) seems to be a hand that improved to a better draw on the turn. I would definitely not put the villain on this hand exclusively, but I think it should be added to his range.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
I would have just called down after the cap preflop. If he ever checks to me i will bet. I think he has 2 qqueens. Your hope is 1010 but i think QQ or KK and he's a mlittle worried you have AA.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
You think he has QQ but never 3-bet anywhere? I know 1.8 isn't that aggressive but I still think it gets a 3-bet in there somewhere.
I'd say he has TT JJ or QQ. KK and AA would even more assuredly put in 3 bets on some street I'd think. 6 ways for TT + 1 way for JJ > 6 ways for QQ. I doubt he called the turn with JJ and will fold the river though. If you can throw some other hands in there like AK or 88/77 even a small fraction of the time it should push the chance that you are ahead even more. You do have a problem though if he was on a flush draw and is looking to check-raise the river because he knows you'll bet your overpair again. |
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If you are holding jj's and you put him on 10,qq,kk, and AA like you say. He is much more likely to have you beat than not beat.
I didnt say dont 3 bet. Preflop i would 3 bet. I said on the flop on i would call down and bet if he checks. Because there is noone else in pot. You dont have to worry about protecting the hand agaisnt other player. You lose less when your beat. And by your lack of aggression post flop you will get [paid off by Ak and Ak if he checks the river and you bet. If they check the river you should definately bet. You will be ahread most of the time. |
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I didn't mean the reply against you specifically. And ya AA-TT are considered preflop, but I think once he doesn't 3-bet any of the flop of turn then you could pretty much discount AA, most of KK, and some of QQ. Just the weighting of it based on flop play was what I was getting at. And even that goes out the window if he's tricky or ultra-passive.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
Oh ok. I wasn't sure if it was directed at me or not. Was gonna put at end of my post " thats if you were refering to me" haha.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
Heard of him but don't know him vega. Is it the same one where he calls me an imbecile?
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
How do you know him?
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
Why did he call you an imbecile?
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
btw he had QQ and said "you must spell poker D-O-N-K-E-Y"
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
The turn raise is kinda close, but i would be inclined to check this river. In the heat of the moment, i probably would have played it just like you.
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Yeah... But as soon as it was over and I thought about it some more, the river bet looked pretty bad.
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I'd rather not get into it. I dont know the man personally, he or his buddies post here and thought it would be funny. Its ok i dont wish him any ill will. I actually think he's kinda funny. i forgive him for insulting me when he never met me or talked to me. I look forward to his next video i will watch.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
I think you played the hand perfectly and I think other posters are giving your average party 20/40 players way too much respect. You're opponent is more likely to call all the way down with AQ and AK than not. So you must bet for value. He could also be capping with garbage like 98s, 55, ATs, who knows. Against a good player its true you want a more passive line. I like the idea of just calling down and betting if its checked to you. But assume your opponents are bad until they prove otherwise.
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Re: Pocket Jacks Party poker 2040 How do you play every street
McNasty has a point. The 14% PFR means he is 3betting when he should fold, and is also likely capping when he should call. 98 isn't unimaginable here. Neither is A9. McNasty is correct that AK/AQ will pay off here. The donk bet on the turn says says "I think I was ahead on the flop, but your draws may have been enough to put YOU ahead. You're not getting a free card." He could do that with TT-AA, A9, T9, 89. I do think that QQ/KK is the most likely holding, but you'll see JJ+ < 45% of the time.
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Yeah, I think my line isn't that bad, until the river though, I think if I had played it the same, but checked behind on the river, then I would feel fine, when he turned over QQ.
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btw he had QQ [/ QUOTE ] I know. |
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[ QUOTE ] btw he had QQ [/ QUOTE ] I know. [/ QUOTE ] You were the villan in this hand? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] btw he had QQ [/ QUOTE ] I know. [/ QUOTE ] You were the villan in this hand? [/ QUOTE ] no, he's just a poker god. btw, i think it's pretty close between betting and checking on the river. probably 50/50 if he caps with TT preflop. |
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