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GooperMC 09-06-2005 06:09 PM

What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Here is my breakdown:
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sjaspan/...Categories.jpg

If you want the categories that I used they can be found here

1) Save O8_Categories.txt (the file that I linked to) somewhere on your computer
2) Open up PTO
3) Click on the General Info tab
4) Click on Categories Tab (in the middle of the page)
5) Click on Maintain Categories
6) Click Import categories
7) Navigate to O8_Categories.txt
8) Click Save.
9) Post your numbers.

Just a warning: my categories are not exclusive. For example the 234 category also contains A234. Likewise the AA6-AA8 category will contain AA62 and AA73. There is no easy way (that I could think of) to stop this with the way that categories are setup. Also I wanted a category for big card but also couldn't figure out an easy way to do that. If anyone knows how to do either of these please let me know and I will refine my files.

Unfortunately because of the above problems this will not be precise but it should be a decent ballpark estimation.

MyTurn2Raise 09-06-2005 06:42 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
For big cards...use the filtering tool. It's too difficult to make a category, but at least you can still investigate the various types of high card hands.

PokerCat69 09-06-2005 06:43 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Don't you play high hands that are double suited, double paired, or suited + pair?

hachkc 09-06-2005 08:09 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Here's mine which is based on about 4500 hands of varying limits(.25/.50 - 1/2).

http://home.comcast.net/~hachkc/o8_cat.jpg

How did you get a page that large or did you just manually paste them together?

Mr_J 09-06-2005 09:34 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Just wanna know what your requirements are to play these hands.

Eg 23xx, what else do you want? Is a wheel card enough or does it need say a 6 or suited king or something?

234x, what do you else do you want in it?

A2, is just another wheel card enough, or does it need to be something like A24K or A245? How about for A3??

A4 and A5, do they need say 2 high cards, a big PP or a suited ace?

Just trying to get an idea of what hands are worth playing. I know it depends on position, but pretend that doesn't matter [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I guess I'm a bit paranoid about wheel cards, and how much else you need for them to be good.

Buzz 09-06-2005 09:55 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Goop - Nifty chart!! I'm envious.

Buzz

GooperMC 09-06-2005 11:21 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
I forgot to mention that posting distributions would also be very helpful. My data is from around 5K $25PLO8 hands.

GooperMC 09-06-2005 11:24 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
I have used the filters for big cards but you can’t see filters together so the categories are easier to see an overall summary. Also the categories are much easier to share [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

GooperMC 09-06-2005 11:27 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
How did you get a page that large or did you just manually paste them together?

[/ QUOTE ]
I have a monitor that is running a very high resolution (1600x1200) which means I can see more on the screen.

I would be interested in seeing the rest of your results even if they do come in multiple images.

hachkc 09-06-2005 11:56 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Updated stats

http://home.comcast.net/~hachkc/o8_cat.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hachkc/o8_cat2.jpg

Alchemist 09-07-2005 12:04 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
http://static.flickr.com/29/41044714_a10135cc5b_o.jpg

This is quite interesting and I'm glad you posted this...I hadn't played around with this feature in PTO.

I sorted mine by BB/hand.

This is just over 14K hands at $.50/1 to $2/4. Looks like I'm playing 234 too much. I'm also kind of surprised my AA hands often outperformed my A2 hands (more scoops?). It seemed like my Aces got cracked an awful lot.

Mr_J 09-07-2005 01:00 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
"I hadn't played around with this feature in PTO"

Heh, I spent about 30 secs thinking "wtf is he talking about...categories??!?" before I realized I should probally check the PTO website for the latest patch [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

GooperMC 09-07-2005 10:12 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Anyone else got PL results they are willing to share?

I will post my Limit results when I get home.

GooperMC 09-07-2005 10:15 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Buzz, I really think that you would enjoy playing around with Poker Tracker. It really mirrors a lot of the great work that you do with your simulations.

If you ever get board one day and want a Poker Tracker database to play around with just PM me and I will be happy to provide one.

emptyshell 09-07-2005 05:08 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
At least in my version of PT, you can exclude various hand types from certain categories. For example, 23xx would be more useful if you excluded A2. If you can't do the exclusions in the version you have, you might want to get the latest version. Still no support for suits, though.

Webster 09-07-2005 10:00 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Being somewhat new to LO9 and PTO do I enter the catigories by hand in the Maintain Cat area???

DPCondit 09-08-2005 12:28 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Being somewhat new to LO9 and PTO do I enter the catigories by hand in the Maintain Cat area???

[/ QUOTE ]

LO9, now that sounds like a fun game. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

09-08-2005 02:48 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
My first post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

31000 hands of FL 0.5/1

http://www.geocities.com/ekenstar/catstat31k.JPG

GooperMC 09-08-2005 08:40 AM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Here are my limit numbers:
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sjaspan/...Categories.jpg

From around 13.5KHands from .5/1 - 2/4

AnyAce 09-08-2005 06:35 PM

Re: What hands are you making the most playing?
 
Well after much wrestling with the computer and a lot of help from Gooper here are my PLO8 ($100) stats:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ist/ptopng.png

Odd that I am losing money on AA3 but clearly not enough data for now.

AA


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