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JackOfSpeed 12-13-2005 03:16 PM

94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
Linky

andyfox 12-13-2005 03:24 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
78% believe in angels, 70% believe in hell.

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-13-2005 04:26 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
"Some folks trust in reason
Others trust in might
I don't trust in nothin'
And I always come out right"

The Grateful Dead

bocablkr 12-13-2005 04:34 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
At least 6% of this country got it right.

theweatherman 12-13-2005 04:51 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
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78% believe in angels, 70% believe in hell.

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How could 8% more believe in mythical angels then believe in hell? What the hell is wrong with people?

peritonlogon 12-13-2005 05:31 PM

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78% believe in angels, 70% believe in hell.

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How could 8% more believe in mythical angels then believe in hell? What the hell is wrong with people?

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Everyone knows Angels dance around on the heads of pins, and pins are right in front of you, if you have one right in front of you. Where is hell? Doesn't seem to be south anymore, it gets cold there, maybe down? no one's ever been that far, but people have seen pins.

peritonlogon 12-13-2005 05:43 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
I don't think this poll could possibly accurate. I know I don't just happen never to talk to 94% of Americans. Furthermore, in reality, it is way way easier and often more convenient for an Atheist to say he believes in god than the other way around, even on a poll. And, most Atheists wouldn't take the time to finish that poll..... ie click mmmmmmmmm. whereas religous people have a vested interest in telling other people that they are religous. I know a respected polling group like Gallup is always trying to find the wording of a question that most accurately describes how the people en mass feel (sarcasm) but between vested interests, ignorance of what the poll results mean (notice the question was asked do you believe god "does not exist" whereas, "do you believe in god?" would get different responses, and, in reality the answeres "no" and "maybe" both equal no to the last question since not affirming = not believing) and incorrectly assuming an even distributiton of people responding vs. not responding, they are far far far out on that limb.

12-13-2005 06:14 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
And most Americans take Bible stoires (such as Creation) literally

It's very scary, really. I want to have hope in people... but when they are so friggin irrational, it's very hard.

DougShrapnel 12-13-2005 06:21 PM

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94% of the US population loved this

12-13-2005 06:25 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
i remember this figure of 94% about 10 years ago, or maybe it was 96%. I'm very dissaapointed that it hasn't changed but 10 years is a short time. but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons...and i hope no one in here think that...i mean ur in a poker forum!!! give it odds sohnnnn!!

and i hate the noncommital attitude of americans... if you're going to believe in god (as long as it is a specific god) then go to church and try to live a holy life. I mean, I'm a non-believer, but everyone wants all of the reward and none of the sacrafice..

UATrewqaz 12-13-2005 06:43 PM

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Ya those 94% of people are retards.

I'm glad a bunch of losers on a poker forum online have finally unwrapped the mysteries of the universe.

I know human beings have believed in some form of religion or god(s) throughout all recorded history, but thankfully we here have figured everything out.

We're so smart, gosh dang I feel so superior.

bocablkr 12-13-2005 06:46 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
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i remember this figure of 94% about 10 years ago, or maybe it was 96%. I'm very dissaapointed that it hasn't changed but 10 years is a short time. but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons. ..and i hope no one in here think that...i mean ur in a poker forum!!! give it odds sohnnnn!!

and i hate the noncommital attitude of americans... if you're going to believe in god (as long as it is a specific god) then go to church and try to live a holy life. I mean, I'm a non-believer, but everyone wants all of the reward and none of the sacrafice..

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Guess I am one of the morons.

This topic of certainty has been addressed before. Wonder why people can be certain there is one but not that there isn't? You want odds - how about 1 google to 1 against there being a god.

DougShrapnel 12-13-2005 06:50 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
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Ya those 94% of people are retards.

I'm glad a bunch of losers on a poker forum online have finally unwrapped the mysteries of the universe.



[/ QUOTE ]No one has said they finally unwrapped the mysteries of the universe. Meerly that God doesn't seem to be a satisfactory answer.

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I know human beings have believed in some form of religion or god(s) throughout all recorded history, but thankfully we here have figured everything out.


[/ QUOTE ] This shows that the belief in God is at least beneficail in some way. But does nothing for it's correctness.

12-13-2005 07:56 PM

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i remember this figure of 94% about 10 years ago, or maybe it was 96%. I'm very dissaapointed that it hasn't changed but 10 years is a short time. but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons. ..and i hope no one in here think that...i mean ur in a poker forum!!! give it odds sohnnnn!!

and i hate the noncommital attitude of americans... if you're going to believe in god (as long as it is a specific god) then go to church and try to live a holy life. I mean, I'm a non-believer, but everyone wants all of the reward and none of the sacrafice..

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Guess I am one of the morons.

This topic of certainty has been addressed before. Wonder why people can be certain there is one but not that there isn't? You want odds - how about 1 google to 1 against there being a god.

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that's absolutely fine in my mind, i put about as low odds on it also, but simply from a person's respect of logic and reasoning, giving it NO chance is ridiculous... i suppose saying there s NO chance is much easier and get's the general point across, if giving your "official" belief i think most would give it odds (however low they may be) rather than giving a somewaht irrational "NO chance" answer

and someone saying that they are absolutely sure that god does exist is not the same because of logical reasons but probably just as ridiculous.. also this person would be more inclined to have their "official" belief as 100% that theree is a god because if not......well you know... the whole wrath of god thing

tolbiny 12-13-2005 08:02 PM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
61% of those who seldom or never attend church are nevertheless convinced that God exists.

These idiots had better be going to hell.

12-13-2005 08:15 PM

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61% of those who seldom or never attend church are nevertheless convinced that God exists.

These idiots had better be going to hell.

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evil_twin 12-13-2005 08:44 PM

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I can't find a link, but I remember a similar poll of many countries around the world testing for belief in god.

America came right up there at the top, along with many African nations like Nigeria and some fundamentalist muslim states. I remember the athiest nations at the very bottom were the UK, Sweden and South Korea. I can't find a link to the poll though, I did try. Perhaps someone else remembers it and has a link?

bocablkr 12-13-2005 09:35 PM

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I can't find a link, but I remember a similar poll of many countries around the world testing for belief in god.

America came right up there at the top, along with many African nations like Nigeria and some fundamentalist muslim states. I remember the athiest nations at the very bottom were the UK, Sweden and South Korea. I can't find a link to the poll though, I did try. Perhaps someone else remembers it and has a link?

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Try this link - half way down is a list of the top fifty countries containing the largest percentage of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or non-believer in God.

http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/facu...n/atheism.html

bocablkr 12-13-2005 09:37 PM

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and someone saying that they are absolutely sure that god does exist is not the same because of logical reasons but probably just as ridiculous.. also this person would be more inclined to have their "official" belief as 100% that theree is a god because if not......well you know... the whole wrath of god thing



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prodigy, I am confused. Can a person be 'certain' there is a god? Are they also a moron for believing that?

TomCollins 12-13-2005 09:48 PM

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Linky

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Does it list the wording of how God is defined? Does "the power that binds the universe together in a set of laws" count as God? Perhaps some people are counted in this way, even though they don't believe in the Christian God in that sense.

12-13-2005 11:22 PM

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and someone saying that they are absolutely sure that god does exist is not the same because of logical reasons but probably just as ridiculous.. also this person would be more inclined to have their "official" belief as 100% that theree is a god because if not......well you know... the whole wrath of god thing



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prodigy, I am confused. Can a person be 'certain' there is a god? Are they also a moron for believing that?

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i don't think that a person can be 100% sure that theree is a god, but there is a reason to claim to be 100% sure that there is a god, but not one to be 100% sure that theree is no god.

I'm not exactly sure how the whole not being able to prove a negative think works, but i think it's applicable in this situation.

and no, a believer cannot be blamed for claiming to be 100% sure that there is a god because that comes with the belief.. i only consider them morons because of such a belief in god, not becuase their 100% sureness claim.

you should probably just commit yourself to hell if you give odds to the christian god's existence.. I'm pretty suree he'd be pissed off

MelchyBeau 12-13-2005 11:24 PM

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How could 8% more believe in mythical angels then believe in hell? What the hell is wrong with people?

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I don't think all jews believe in hell, but do believe in Angels. This might account for a few %.

Melch

12-14-2005 12:01 AM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
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but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons

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I agree 100%

12-14-2005 12:05 AM

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but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons

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I agree 100%

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as should all of the poker players here

sweetjazz 12-14-2005 11:48 AM

Re: 94% of Americans believe God Exists
 
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78% believe in angels, 70% believe in hell.

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How could 8% more believe in mythical angels then believe in hell? What the hell is wrong with people?

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I assure you that the legend of Vladimir Guerrero is very real.

bocablkr 12-14-2005 02:38 PM

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but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons

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I agree 100%

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as should all of the poker players here

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Please explain???

12-14-2005 07:37 PM

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but anyway that 1% that say they are sure that god does not exist are ovbiousely morons

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I agree 100%

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as should all of the poker players here

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Please explain???

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oh i mean that poker players use odds frequently..there's nothing really to that statement

i just think that odds should be placed on any negative statement and possibly all positive statements...100% in the official sense is hard to come by

RxForMoreCowbell 12-14-2005 08:06 PM

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"Surprisingly, some 61% of those who seldom or never attend church are nevertheless convinced that God exists."

I assert that the majority of those in this group really don't care much about God or faith, but like to say they do. These people may indeed believe a God exists, but are being completely disingenuous to pledge "one nation, under God". Any thoughts?

Borodog 12-14-2005 08:28 PM

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Um, am I the only one who thinks this 94% number is complete and total [censored]?

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women a little more likely than men (82% vs. 73%)

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Last time I checked, that would mean the total percentage of the population that believes would be:

0.5(82%) + 0.5(73%) = 77.5%, perhaps a hair more if you give women 51% of the population as they're supposed to have.

Unless there is a giant undercground population of religious fanatic eunuchs that I don't know about.


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