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Ok, so I sit down with a brand new screenname and I post in the BB for my first hand. SB is LPP (datamined) but no hands on anyone else.

Party 10/20. We're 5 handed and I'm dealt 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB. UTG limps, CO openraises, Button 3 bets, SB drops, I call, UTG and CO call.

flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
checked to button who bets, this is an easy check raise right?

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this is an easy check raise right?


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uh, i'm pretty sure i fold here. what 3betting hands are we ahead of?

Re: 99
 

hmm ok I thought I could be tricky and change things around and seem all aggro. I actually made what I consider to be a very loose flop peel. EDIT: not closing the action.

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I think a peel is far worse than a c/r. Against unknowns I would fold.

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even though everyone's range is probably fairly wide at 10/20? I would agree with you on an A high flop...but isn't there tons of stuff in my favor here including the bdsd, and the pot is huge?

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I wouldn't assume the 3bettor had a wide range. This is clearly not a steal situation, so I would assume a pretty solid range for the button, to which you are pretty far behind. If I had some inclination that the button was laggy preflop, and raising light, I would certainly prefer a c/r to a call. I would say most of your equity in this hand is derived from when you are ahead on the flop and remain that way, so protection would be a high priority if I were to continue. UTG and the CO are likely to peel with broadways with bdfds, and hands like AT and AJ, but faced with 2 bets you may encourage some incorrect folds from them.

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I c/r this as a standard line. I'm recently reevaluating these types of plays so I could be off base. If i bust out of this tourney early I'll crunch some #s.

Surf

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I think this is a fold unless you know button's 3betting range to be pretty wide. You are behind everything besides AQ/AJ and these don't always 3bet and don't always bet the flop. Even if you are ahead of button, utg or CO could have a king. Add to all this the fact that button has 6 outs against you almost always when you're ahead.

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Preflop is a cap imo.

The way it was played, c/r the flop. If you want to find a fold let them give you more reason to than just preflop action.

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55/88? AT/A9s? other suited broadway as well (QJs?) since we're talking about CO and Button and a weak limper, won't he be 3 betting a lot?

as you can see my instinct was fold so yeah. I'm just trying to play advocate and all that

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I c/r this as a standard line. I'm recently reevaluating these types of plays so I could be off base. If i bust out of this tourney early I'll crunch some #s.

Surf

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opinion on PF? mine was that I wasnt pushing anyone out often enough and the pot was gonna be big enough to require showdown so why not choose my flops since the value is thin. on the right track?

Re: 99
 

yea it really depends on his range. If the K on the flop was a Q I'd checkraise. It's probably close.

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opinion on PF? mine was that I wasnt pushing anyone out often enough and the pot was gonna be big enough to require showdown so why not choose my flops since the value is thin. on the right track?

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Yeah I call inteding to c/r favorable flops, where favorable ='s "improved me" or "didn't appear to improve my opponents".

I'd probably let it go if I wasn't in a blind...if I was OTB and wanted to play I'd 4bet, I <3 position.

Surf

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agreed, I'm also more inclined to play raise or fold from the SB

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yea it really depends on his range. If the K on the flop was a Q I'd checkraise. It's probably close.

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Ditto.