Are Most Swedes Incapable of a Cogent Political Discusion?
 

Lately a certain Swede has been posting quite often in this forum yet seems incapable of posting anything useful or at least both coherent and on topic. Some may say the same about me, if you feel that way please feel free to start your own thread and do not hijack this one.

I postulate that living (and being born in) in Sweden one may simply be incapable of understanding the intricate thought processes involved when discussing politics in America. This could be considered a handicap of sorts but since he is not an American I don't fear any repercussions from the ACLU by criticizing his mental acuity.

Perhaps this post is more of a rant than anything else but if you have a strong opinion one way or the other (and you are not Swedish) I welcome the chance to discuss other opinions.

What about IL Mostro (aka the Mad Swede)?
 

Although he and I rarely agree, he is respectful and usually supports his positions with a reasoned argument.

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Although he and I rarely agree, he is respectful and usually supports his positions with a reasoned argument.

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Ohh, I belive Wakey here is talking about me. It seems Wakey have a hard time loosing an argument.

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This is the best you can do?

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For any of you who may have misunderstood my post I am looking for opinions in this thread for people of any Nationality other than Swedish as I expect them to be somewhat biased. I hope this clarifies matters. Thank-you.....

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I like hearing the opinions of the Swedes on this board.

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I like hearing the opinions of the non-Americans on the board. Although it is quite rare when I can find any common ground with them. It does give me a mini-insight of the different perspectives on world politics.

By the way, who is that chick on your avatar?
I like the way she dances. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Most Europeans are TOTALLY Ignorant about.........
 

...American Conservatism.

In the USA we have talk radio (Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, Michael Savage, G.Gordon Liddy, etc...) which does a good job of explaining conservatism and why modern liberalism has failed. We also have Fox News which presents two sides of issues and lets the viewer decide...

Europeans do not have access to the same information and their opinions are heavily influenced by their media. As a result many suffer from a group-think hive-mentality. The simply do NOT have the same choice of information that we Americans have... And European leaders like Chirac pass laws making expressing unpopular viewpoints to be called hate speech and therefore subject to fines and imprisonment.

There is only one solution for the English Speaking Europeans, we need to go to www.rushlimbaugh.com and buy them a year subscription to Rush24/7. Let "El Rushbo" lead those European heathens to the fountain of knowledge so they may quench their thirsty lips for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Perhaps we should start an Adopt-an-European fund to collect donations so they can listen to Rush 24/7. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I'll donate $1......

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The intricacies of politics in America were most recently publicly discussed by Geroge Bush and Nancy Pelosi, so the mental acumen to do so can't be too demanding.

If a particular Swede doesn't discuss politics in an apt or coherent way, by your reckoning, why would you postulate that all Swedes couldn't do so? That would be the same thing as my postulating that all Republicans don't know how to pronounce the word "nuclear" just because the President doesn't. Or that they all governors think Hubert Humphrey was a Communist because the governor of California said he was.

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By the way, who is that chick on your avatar?

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Don't to OOT much? She was all the rage about a week ago. Some French singer named Alizee. I've always been about a week behind the times.

Wake Up makes a Postulate
 

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Lately a certain Swede ... seems incapable of posting anything useful or ... coherent.
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I postulate that ... [by] being born in Sweden, one may simply be incapable of ... intricate thought processes.

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In other words, you are saying that from one Swede you have postulated a theorem concerning all Swedes, right?

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I like hearing the opinions of the Swedes on this board.

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Yes, I do too; it's a bit like a contrarian indicator of sorts.

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That would be the same thing as my postulating that all Republicans don't know how to pronounce the word "nuclear" just because the President doesn't.

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Andy,

I think he knows how.

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Lately a certain Swede ... seems incapable of posting anything useful or ... coherent.
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In other words, you are saying that from one Swede you have postulated a theorem concerning all Swedes, right?

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Bzzzzzt! Wrong again, Cyrus! There is nothing in that quote to indicate that he is basing it on ONE Swede. For all you know he could be basing it on multiple Swedes, and just felt like mentioning by way of example a certain Swede who has been posting a lot recently.

You should automatically be aware of the non-implied aspect of his post. If you would wisely acquire the habit of more precise automatic thinking it will likely save you (or others;-)) untold griefs in the future.

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True....whenever I'm undecided about a political issue.

I ask as many Europeans what their opinions are of this political issue and then....I take the opposing side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

M Saves The Day
 

"There is nothing in that quote to indicate that [Wake Up CALL] is basing it on ONE Swede. For all you know he could be basing it on multiple Swedes, and just felt like mentioning by way of example a certain Swede who has been posting a lot recently."

Just as I expected. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

OK, then, let's settle it: Let's have Wakey come forth and tell us who are these "multiple Swedes" on which he is basing his "postulate", or what other basis he has for it, e.g. meeting "multiple Swedes", reading a lot about Swedes, journeys to Sweden, studying Swedish culture and history, or watching Swedish movies, etc.

Swedish porn don't count.

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Wake up CALL could be basing it on various Swedes who have posted in this forum, Cyrus. And I think that for this purpose you qualify as an honorary Swede.

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He knows how, but at this point is unwilling to give his detractors the satisfaction of seeing him change.

M Puts Wake Up Call On Hold
 

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Wake up CALL could be basing it on various Swedes who have posted in this forum.

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So why not allow Wakey to explain things? He is prefectly capable of making a fool of himself without your help.

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I think that for this purpose you qualify as an honorary Swede.

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Yes, I'm sure the last defence will be to use the term metaphorically. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Wake up CALL could be basing it on various Swedes who have posted in this forum.

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So why not allow Wakey to explain things?

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By pointing out your logical error I am not letting Wake explain things for himself? I didn't say what he is doing; only what he might be doing--for the benefit of those who constantly read more into things than is written, ahem.

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I think that for this purpose you qualify as an honorary Swede.

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Yes, I'm sure the last defence will be to use the term metaphorically.

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So, you think you're a metaphor now, eh, Cyrus? Tell me, does this represent an improvement over the old Cyrus?

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In other words, you are saying that from one Swede you have postulated a theorem concerning all Swedes, right?


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Dear Cyrus,

How many snakes must bite you before you consider the possibility that most if not all snakes might be capable of biting you? No need for you to answer since I'm sure your response would be so obscure that only a Swede might understand.


As for probability are you still jealous that BruceZ and Mason don't allow you to post there any more?

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I like hearing the opinions of the Swedes on this board.

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As do I, heck, I even like hearing an opinion expressed by Cyrus now and again. That alone doesn't mean they have any real value outside of providing a bit of entertainment upon ocassion. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Most Europeans are TOTALLY Ignorant about.........
 

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Perhaps we should start an Adopt-an-European fund to collect donations so they can listen to Rush 24/7.
I'll donate $1......


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I too would be willing to donate Felix. Anyone here know how many Kronor a US dollar will buy? (This is not an invitation for a response from a Swede) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Never mind it will only purchase 0.141369 Kronor, no wonder they are doing so poorly educating their young!

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If a particular Swede doesn't discuss politics in an apt or coherent way, by your reckoning, why would you postulate that all Swedes couldn't do so?

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My only response Andy is in the form of a question. Haven't you ever witnessed a snakebite either? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] You and Cyrus must hang out at the same parks.

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Fox News presents two sides of an issue and lets the viewer's decide? That is the funniest and most ridiculous thing I have heard today.

As for Rush "my maid was my drug mule" Limbaugh, a semi-intelligent windbag like him wouldn't last long in real debate outside the confines of his brainwashed "ditto heads."

Frank

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Yes, I do too; it's a bit like a contrarian indicator of sorts.

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Well said MMMMMM. I hadn't considered the contrarian nature of the Mad Swede as useful before. It is a bit like using the the smart money vs the public's when choosing which team to bet in a sporting event.

I wonder if Swedes bet on curling? It apperars not, since now they want to ban sports in Sweden.

Sweden wants to ban sports hooligans

Who would they have left to attend the games? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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We also have Fox News which presents two sides of issues and lets the viewer decide...

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Who cares about Fox News or CNN? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Fox Sports is a joke. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Are Most Swedes Incapable of a Cogent Political Discusion?

No.

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Are Most Swedes Incapable of a Cogent Political Discusion?

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Thanks for your input Koller. Might you be willing to comment on my proposed solution for the countery of Sweden?

My Solution for Swedes Meddling in US Politics

AndyFox might enjoy this link! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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And yo usay this based on what evidence?

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The essence of bigotry. Take a feature of the natural world, say, after getting bitten by a snake, that all snakes are capable of biting. And then assume that, ipso facto, since one Swede made an illogical argument (if indeed he did), that all of them do. While I can't tell if you're serious or not, of such thinking was scientific racism born.

This is what my friend M has done concerning liberals. The moderate leftists have swallowed hook, line, and sinker, according to him, the thinking of the radicals.

Please don't tell us some of your best friends are Swedes.

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Thanks for your input Koller.

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Your welcome. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

First Bombs Away on Finland and now bombs away on Sweden. I like your ideas.

Bombs away on Finland

If their general population is anywhere near as incoherent and liberal as Koller then the world is better off without the entire country.

This miserable little country is a succubus in the center of the European Union and should be dealt with severely. Perhaps France and Germany will like us again if we eliminate this living leech.

Good times. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Keep up the good work! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Apparently, all conservatives are incapable of conducting a political discussion without resort to the threat of violence.

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Apparently, all conservatives are incapable of conducting a political discussion without resort to the threat of violence.

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Threats are useless without actually following through. That is what conservatives are good at, finishing what they begin.


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Please don't tell us some of your best friends are Swedes.


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Not a single one Andy, nor are any of them Liberals. I must be able to trust my friends.

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While I can't tell if you're serious or not, ...

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You really think I might be building an atomic bomb in my basement and booking my flight on Aktiebolaget Aerotransport to deliver my message in person? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Make love...not War
 

"Apparently, all conservatives are incapable of conducting a political discussion without resort to the threat of violence."
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Please good fellow, don't paint with such a broad brush. Consider the words of the quote below:

"The essence of bigotry. Take a feature of the natural world, say, after getting bitten by a snake, that all snakes are capable of biting. And then assume that, ipso facto, since one Swede made an illogical argument (if indeed he did), that all of them do. While I can't tell if you're serious or not, of such thinking was scientific racism born."

Hmmmmmmm........are these quotes by the same person?
Hmmmmmmm........ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yeah,

Fox Sports is pretty funny too... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Frank

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Aktiebolaget Aerotransport

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Vodka Airlines [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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whenever I'm undecided about a political issue.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Good job Felix!

I like your style. You're smart and funny. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]