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I normally play full ring but have been running bad so switched to 6-max for a change of pace. The game is 5-handed, I just sat with $200, villain has me covered by about $10. I've never seen him before.

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, fold, SB completes, I make it $10 to go w/QQ, UTG folds, villain pushes, SB folds.

Is this a no-brainer fold? I've never seen an overlimp/reraise at 6-max (occasionally it happens in the first couple seats of full ring and is almost always AA/KK)

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I normally play full ring but have been running bad so switched to 6-max for a change of pace.

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hah

This sounds like me.

Yes this is a fold with no read, whenever this happens to me, I always know i'm going to regret folding when I learn this guy is an uber maniac but you know what they say..

Its better to be safe than.. stacked.

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Honestly, if I hadn't been running so bad, I probably would've called. I expect to see a medium-high pair (JJ-99) or AK a large percentage of the time. I just wasn't sure at 6-max and wasn't willing to pay $200 to find out.

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You think he overlimped AA/KK? That would be a weird play, but possible. Much more likely he is just an overaggro donk and thinks you're stealing from the blinds. By the way, you should have raised more to further convey that impression. I'm making it at least 12 there and possibly even 15.

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Does that mean you'd call?



Not that I knew at the time, but I now know I was likely good there -- he's done some ridiculously overaggro stuff.

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without a read it's a clear fold...he'll probably turn out to be a moron but you don't know that yet.

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Yes. At 6m, barring a read, I'm giggling to get it all in preflop with QQ even at NL200.

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i fold here, i can't see 99/TT doin it, so i play it safe

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I second that... at 6max you'll even see some AQ/AJ in the mix once in a while, you'd be amazed at what 4 less people does the the strength of a starting hand.

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yeah, I let QQ go here, Its AA/KK/AK and thats no good (and its more often AA than anything else. However, if you witness this behaviour lots of times soon after this, then it becomes a call with QQ.

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Is this a no-brainer fold?

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Yes.
You need Villain making strange limp/reraise play with sth worse than AK/AA/KK and even then you are probably only 2-1 favourite. FOLD.

Best wishes !

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By the way, you should have raised more to further convey that impression. I'm making it at least 12 there and possibly even 15.

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Nice to have somebody thinking in exactly the same way as I do.

Best wishes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You're probably a 4-1 favorite.

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This is a clear cut call.

I have been in this situation twice and once faced a medium PP and the other J-rag.

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This is a clear cut call.

I have been in this situation twice and once faced a medium PP and the other J-rag.

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Maybe I understimated maniacs at Party...
I think almost always you will see AA/KK/AK or Ax here.
I am interested in what Hero did here, results please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I normally play full ring but have been running bad so switched to 6-max for a change of pace. The game is 5-handed, I just sat with $200, villain has me covered by about $10. I've never seen him before.

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, fold, SB completes, I make it $10 to go w/QQ, UTG folds, villain pushes, SB folds.

Is this a no-brainer fold? I've never seen an overlimp/reraise at 6-max (occasionally it happens in the first couple seats of full ring and is almost always AA/KK)

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I think you let running bad cloud your judgement. You've got the third best possible preflop hand and this guy is actively working to chase you out of the pot. I think you had him crushed.

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This is a clear cut call.

I have been in this situation twice and once faced a medium PP and the other J-rag.

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Maybe I understimated maniacs at Party...
I think almost always you will see AA/KK/AK or Ax here.
I am interested in what Hero did here, results please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think the key thing here is the guy originally limped from the CO. Not many people are limping in after 1 limper with AA,KK here. I just don't buy it and would call. I think you are easily ~70/30 at a min against Ax here and possible 80/20 against a lower PP.

Edit: Also being the first hand at the table leans it even more to a call for me cause there is 1 less person left to act that he could have a read on that could possibly explain why he would limp with AA,KK from the CO.

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Edit: Also being the first hand at the table leans it even more to a call for me cause there is 1 less person left to act that he could have a read on that could possibly explain why he would limp with AA,KK from the CO.

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Also, there is a non-zero chance that he has limp/pushed the last 10 hands in a row.

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I think you let running bad cloud your judgement. You've got the third best possible preflop hand and this guy is actively working to chase you out of the pot. I think you had him crushed.

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I learnt sth new today. Seriously. I thought that I was just sane to fold this preflop. Now I start thinking that I am just a puss....

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I think you let running bad cloud your judgement. You've got the third best possible preflop hand and this guy is actively working to chase you out of the pot. I think you had him crushed.

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I learnt sth new today. Seriously. I thought that I was just sane to fold this preflop. Now I start thinking that I am just a puss....

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I don't think it is a puss fold at all. I just think that it is unlikely that you are behind more often than you are ahead here. It is for reasons like these that I am uncomfortable playing at higher limits. Making this call for $10 or $25 is a lot easier.