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this seems to be where i'm getting destroyed.

what kind of numbers do you guys have 3-handed?

http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/~pollane/3hand.PNG

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http://baronzeus.com/3handed.gif

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You're quite a bit tighter OTB than me. Limited sample sizes, though, and I probably play against much worse opposition in general 3-handed than you do.

http://www.geekpoker.net/images/3handed.jpg

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Your showdown stats look through the roof.

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Your showdown stats look through the roof.

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yup, always have. trying to work on that.

how the crap do you guys make money in the BB?

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this is kind of weird, because i feel like i'm playing way too loose :| maybe i actually am running really bad.

i think i probably need to tighten up on the flop. i peel a lot. will try to post hands.

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http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/1412/3handed0av.png

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ive never thought/spoke about this before but it seems normal to lose more money in the SB then in the BB in a 3handed game. there are many times when the button folds and you have an equity edge against the small blind being in position. the stats above are only after a few thousand hands though, so it really doesnt say anything conclusive.

i agree with entity though, you go to showdown too much. i think i remember you telling me a couple months ago about how you go to showdown like 40% and thought that was optimal. you seem to be questioning yourself now after running bad, which may be a good thing, but on the other hand it may not be.

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ive never thought/spoke about this before but it seems normal to lose more money in the SB then in the BB in a 3handed game. there are many times when the button folds and you have an equity edge against the small blind being in position. the stats above are only after a few thousand hands though, so it really doesnt say anything conclusive.

i agree with entity though, you go to showdown too much. i think i remember you telling me a couple months ago about how you go to showdown like 40% and thought that was optimal. you seem to be questioning yourself now after running bad, which may be a good thing, but on the other hand it may not be.

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i still think 40% is fine. 44% is a lot higher than 40% though.

but yeah, losing more in the SB than BB makes sense, particularly in 2/3 structures. i'm getting crushed in the BB though. 4-handed too.

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did you filter correctly?

I dont think its possible to have more button trials than SB/BB if it is 100% 3 handed play.

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I'm glad you posted this, because it's another chance to remind me how awful my BB play is (regardless of how many players are in the hand). I suspect this comes from not 3-betting enough. My kingdom to whoever can offer me some useful advice here.

I know this is a tiny sample, but I get similarly out of whack numbers when looking at bigger samples (with more players).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...ter3handed.jpg

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did you filter correctly?

I dont think its possible to have more button trials than SB/BB if it is 100% 3 handed play.

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It is possible if he leaves before the BB gets to him when the table breaks. If you chose to never post a blind when it gets down to 3-handed, you could conceivably have 3-handed stats where 100% of your hands are on the button.

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great point. agreed.

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Small sample:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3253/3handed9jv.jpg

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I was just about to express my admiration for most of you in this thread, who have such better numbers. Then I noticed one other thing: even the winners here appear to be winning only between .02 and .03 when all 3 positions are considered together.

Does this relatively small number mean that it's pretty hard to make a decent profit playing just 3-handed, even for the best of us? Or am I misinterpreting how good that number is?

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I was just about to express my admiration for most of you in this thread, who have such better numbers. Then I noticed one other thing: even the winners here appear to be winning only between .02 and .03 when all 3 positions are considered together.

Does this relatively small number mean that it's pretty hard to make a decent profit playing just 3-handed, even for the best of us? Or am I misinterpreting how good that number is?

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This is a per hand rate. .03=3BB/100

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did you filter correctly?

I dont think its possible to have more button trials than SB/BB if it is 100% 3 handed play.

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It is possible if he leaves before the BB gets to him when the table breaks. If you chose to never post a blind when it gets down to 3-handed, you could conceivably have 3-handed stats where 100% of your hands are on the button.

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and i'll often be playing HU when a third joins, thus getting the button on the first 3-handed hand. it's certainly possible.

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This is a per hand rate. .03=3BB/100

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Yep, and that's even after paying significantly more rake. In a game without rake, I suspect 3 handed play is much more profitable for the expert than 6 handed play.

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Smallish sample as well...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...et/3handed.gif

IMO you are going to showdown way too much. It can be easy to overvalue high card and weak pairs, but it's often possible using hand reading to determine spots to save bets, which is key in HU pots.

Surf

Also, I have very very stringent game selection standards for <4 handed.

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Small sample sizes are sweet!

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2760/3handed4ul.png

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here's my stats for 3-4 handed.

it's clear i'm getting raped in the BB. not folding enough. i will try to plug this leak.

http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/~pollane/3-4handed.PNG

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I'm glad you posted this, because it's another chance to remind me how awful my BB play is (regardless of how many players are in the hand). I suspect this comes from not 3-betting enough. My kingdom to whoever can offer me some useful advice here.


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In my honest opinion I think the majority of players here lose MORE money from 3betting too much.

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small sample sizes are the [censored]

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7913/3hand2wy.jpg

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can someone explain to me how almost every poster in this thread is running between 3-5BB/100 over a smallish sample size?

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can someone explain to me how almost every poster in this thread is running between 3-5BB/100 over a smallish sample size?

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Most people suck at poker.

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can someone explain to me how almost every poster in this thread is running between 3-5BB/100 over a smallish sample size?

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Those who run g00t are more likely to post their stats.

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im 50/35 and raising 53 on the button.

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Not me. I neglected to include the totals in other post, but 3-handed I'm running exactly at 0.00, which seems kind of hard to believe.