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josh3336 07-30-2005 05:16 PM

Playing tens in the hole...
 
I ust got done playing this this hand and I was wondering if I should have played it differently through any of the streets or bet the river. The villian was in every hand and raising almost every pot. We each had about 30.00 in chips. I was planning on just playing it for a set but the flop came out all unders.
Party Poker (10 handed) converter

Preflop:
Player 3 folds
Player 4 folds
Villian calls
Player 5 folds
Player 6 calls
Player 7 calls
Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] calls.
<font color="#666666"></font>], SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks
Villian bets 1.00
Player 6 calls
Player 7 calls
Hero calls
BB folds
Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Villian checks
Player 6 checks
Player 7 checks
Hero bets 3.00
Villian calls
Player 6 folds
Player 7 folds

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, Hero checks.

WildDan 07-30-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
I'm raising TT on the button, especially against a mid position limper and the blinds. I also feel the flop was played pretty passively. I'm not going to elimate a 67s as a possible hand from a limper, so I'd raise the flop to see where I stood.

Voltron87 07-30-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
raise preflop

other than that your line looks fine

07-30-2005 07:42 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
I definitely think you played this too passively preflop and on the flop.

what are the blinds?

josh3336 07-30-2005 07:54 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
.10-.25 c. Yea I agree i guess I did play it too passively I just figured if I raised preflop everyone would come along for the ride...

davekngs 07-30-2005 08:29 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
if you are playing 25NL and the pot hasnt been opened when it reaches you on the button im gonna raise it to $1 preflop. this flop is perfect so I would raise the $1 bet from middle position to $3 (i think i probably have the best hand but I also want to find out if im behind right now rather than later) If I got called the turn would be perfect and I would make another bet so I didnt show weakness but I wouldnt go mad (i would bet about $5) if I got called now im checking the river unless another 10 hits but I wouldnt neccessarily think im behind, i would just think its possible he has made a snidy 2 pair or more likely a set given a limp call PF which often means a low PP. I think limping preflop is a mistake but not a huge one, the main problem was how passively you played it on the flop

AgentBishop 07-30-2005 11:36 PM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
Raise preflop
Raise flop
Raise turn
check river

Thats my line.

josh3336 07-31-2005 12:14 AM

Results
 
Villian shows A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], I guess I should have been more aggressive throughout. I was just thinking for some reason to play it for a set.

Logik 07-31-2005 12:51 AM

Re: Results
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian shows A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], I guess I should have been more aggressive throughout. I was just thinking for some reason to play it for a set.

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise preflop.
Raise the flop.
Turn and river look great, especially the K check-through, as he would likely only call a significant bet with a K.

I like the line from the turn on, basically.

whittiphil 07-31-2005 01:09 AM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
Raise preflop.. and I was about to suggest making a small bet on the river... but then that could induce a bluff and you reall wouldn't know where you stood. Nice hand.

RiverFenix 07-31-2005 03:14 AM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
If you arent raising TT on the button with 1 limper in, what the hell are you raising with? Not raising pf is a major problem you need to change.

Theyre so many good reasons to raise this flop, you are too passive

josh3336 07-31-2005 03:36 AM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
It was 3 limpers.

FreakDaddy 07-31-2005 04:11 AM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
If the people involved do indeed have you covered, or you're about even, then playing this for set value in this position is fine. The problem pre-flop is that no one has shown any strength, so while it might sound a bit odd, I'd mini-raise this particluar hand pre-flop for two reasons. 1) You'll likely knowck out one of the blinds that may flop some silly two pair if there's all unders.
2) You'll have shown some kind of strength and there's a better chance it will get checked to you on the flop.

If you 'miss' your flop but have all under cards here and the board isn't too coordinated, and someone leads into you, then you must make it a minumum of a pot sized raise here. I'd even suggest slightly over, so that you're setting a tone here.

The turn is ok, but a pot size to 2/3 bet here is good too. River is fine.

creedofhubris 07-31-2005 05:12 AM

Re: Playing tens in the hole...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Raise preflop
Raise flop
Raise turn
check river

Thats my line.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is the standard line. Raise, and keep betting until that king comes out, then use position and check behind.


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