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arod15 10-20-2005 10:45 AM

Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Me and my friend argued for hours about this. I say I take Duncan. Although he is probably the most boring superstar in the league, he is a proven winner. Garnnet has yet in my oppinion lived up to his potential. He is great but can be better, i pick Duncan as over him anyday. Thoughts?

Clarkmeister 10-20-2005 11:27 AM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Fantasy Basketball = Garnett in a landslide

Real Basketball = Duncan

BadBoyBenny 10-20-2005 07:48 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Duncan. This would have been better as a poll.

WC64 10-27-2005 12:17 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
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Fantasy Basketball = Garnett in a landslide

Real Basketball = Duncan

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I agree

Hornacek 10-27-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
LeBron?

Here's how I'd rank the top 5 NBA Playaz:
LeBron
Duncan
KG
The Diggler
Shaq

I'm refusing to put Wade on here because I'm in the minority that his rep and his stats are getting help big time from Shaq's presence. Also, if for some reason your uniform looks exactly like the uniform of the German National Team, Dirk goes up to #2.

Edit: Amare ('04-'05 version) would have ranked #4 ahead of Dirk, but since no one knows how his surgery is going to turn out...

10-27-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Tough choice, but I go with Garnett. I know Duncan is great but he's also had some great help along the way. Garnett has yet to have a good player beside him. If you pick him and can actually build around him I think he is the better choice.

JcTc 10-27-2005 01:39 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
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Garnett has yet to have a good player beside him.

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A few years ago, Cassell, Spree, and Wally were a pretty good supporting cast.

Brad22 10-27-2005 02:59 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Duncan has had more success b/c he has better teammates and better coaches - nothing to do with leadership.

Garnett is a better passer, FT shooter, outside shooter, and rebounder.

Duncan is a step up defensively.

About even really.

TheGame1020 10-27-2005 03:07 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Duncan cause he hits the big shot. Garnett doesn't make those clutch game winners like TD.

Hornacek 10-27-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Just like his 4th quarter disappearing act in games 3-6 of the NBA Finals this past year, huh?

I'm STILL wondering how Ginobili and/or Horry didn't get the Finals MVP over TD.

ucfryan 10-27-2005 03:55 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
He showed up in Game 7 down the stretch.

Rick Diesel 10-27-2005 04:18 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Having someone who plays absolutely no defense whatsoever as #4 on your list clearly reduces the value of your opinion. I don't think Dirk cracks the top 15, let alone the top 5.

llabb 10-27-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
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Fantasy Basketball = Garnett in a landslide
Real Basketball = Duncan

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Clark nailed the post, should have been over already.

However, there is still a discussion going on over the real world basketball reasons. There should not be much argument here, but some people are perhaps misled by KG's fantasy dominance, his passion and intensity, and his raw talent. The man is a freak, plain and simple. He is amazing and a joy to watch on the court. He is much more charismatic to root for than Duncan. His skillset is more well rounded than Duncan.

However, this does not measure up to Duncan for the purposes of a winning NBA team. Duncan = post game. Garnett does not. Winning the NBA is predicated upon either a post game, or having the best basketball player of all time. You can build around Duncan's post game and defense in the middle. It is more difficult to do so around Garnett. The opinions of the people who matter confirm this. GM polls indicate that Duncan is the #1 PF as well as the top choice to build a team around, by a clear margin.

There is not, nor should there be much debate, unless Garnett demonstrates success at the highest levels and develops a much stronger post game. He has shown a reticence to do so thus far.

Hornacek 10-27-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
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Having someone who plays absolutely no defense whatsoever as #4 on your list clearly reduces the value of your opinion. I don't think Dirk cracks the top 15, let alone the top 5.

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Agree to disagree. You must be a bitter Clippers or Raptors fan whose never experienced a winning team. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

And he seems to do ok in Euro Championships, unless you never bothered watching them (part-time NBA fan alert!). I have no idea why people say he plays NO defense... just because he's no Ben Wallace on D, how the hell does he average 10 rpg, 1.5 bpg, and 1 spg???? lol!

pudley4 10-27-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Duncan or Garnett who you got?
 
Most of the time, he's by far the tallest Maverick on the court, so many rebounds will go to him by default. Averaging 1.5 bpg is no great defensive feat - that's not even top-25 in the NBA; and on a per 48 min basis, he falls even further - behind such defensive stalwarts as Robert Horry and Donyell Marshall. His steals are nothing either - he's behind Peja and Vince Carter (hardly the most challenging defenders in the NBA)

edit: as for the original question - I'm a T-Wolves fan, I love KG, and there's no way I take him over Duncan unless it's on my fantasy team.


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