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Okay guys, this isnt a poll because Im not nearly knowledgable about music. As a matter of fact, Im only going to nominate in one genre: Metal Rock.

James Maynard Keenan.

I want to hear some of the greats in this category, as well as any more you would like to bring up.

I have the bad habit of listening to what's popular in certain genres, and would like to hear some of the "greats".

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In the American Folk genre, Dave Van Ronk is hugely underrated.

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Am I crazy, or isn't it Maynard James Keenan?

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HAHA, you may absolutely be right, my friend used to call him that, but he was a stoner.

I refuse to be embarassed about it though... haha.

EDIT: yup. been saying it wrong for years.

brb, gotta go kick a stoner's ass.

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across all categories. .
dylan
christopherson
parton (yes, her)
lennon/mccartney
garcia/hunter (i know, stretching the "singer/songwriter" thingy)
Jimi
Willie
Woody
Lou Reed
Johnny Cash Money
Marley
. .. to name a few

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Chuck Berry
Pete Townshend
Paul Weller

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Really?

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Okay, I know Im above the average age here, is anyone going to post about people who haven't been making music since god was a baby?

Growing up in the family I did, I heard alot of these guys, and now I realize why I liked em.

Im going to show my ignorance, and put up some more names.

Clapton? (Not as inventive as Jimi, but made "simple" as complex as possible.

Morrison

Joey Ramone... near the best punk has.
Billy Joe.... after American Idiot, cant see argument against this for punk
Chris Cornell.
Freddy Mercury
Ozzy (come on!)
Hetfield

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Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth).

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listen to Ani DiFranco, she is the greatest folk singer I've ever heard.

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Eddie Vedder

Pearl Jam rocks

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I would say Slayer for their genre. Hanneman,King and Araya

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The 60's and 70's is a tie between John Lennon and Bob Dylan. The 80's is Axel Rose. The 90's to today is Dave Matthews.

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For metal rock I'm gonna nominate Dave Mustaine.

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Over Hetfield? Im gonna have to call foul on that... talk about timeless lyrics.

Voicewise too.

Although I agree that Mustaine was amazing as well.


...Dave friggin Matthews? If his voice didnt sound like he got kicked in the junk maybe... but ever since I left yuppiesvill high wherein every damn preppy chick loved him, I cant stand it.

Perhaps I am misinformed though... any songs that are a little harder or less lilting and wussy?

I'd like to like him.

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listen to Ani DiFranco, she is the greatest folk singer I've ever heard.

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agreed

I also dig Ryan Adams

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incase this factored into your award, afaik MJK doesn't write for a perfect circle - he's just a vocalist

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joni mitchell - is there a better record than blue?

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I don't think he qualifies at all... I don't think he "writes" any of the music for Tool either, other then maybe the lyrics. From the few interviews I've read/heard its more of a collaborative process with them.

Ryan Adams is a great nomination.

I would also nominate Jim James from My Morning Jacket, easily one of my favorites.
Willie Nelson?
Waylon Jennings?
I'm not too sure what % of their music each wrote, but even if it was only 50% I would consider both of them along with the already mentioned Johnny Cash.

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For metal rock I'm gonna nominate Dave Mustaine.

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Over Hetfield? Im gonna have to call foul on that... talk about timeless lyrics.

Voicewise too.

Although I agree that Mustaine was amazing as well.


...Dave friggin Matthews? If his voice didnt sound like he got kicked in the junk maybe... but ever since I left yuppiesvill high wherein every damn preppy chick loved him, I cant stand it.

Perhaps I am misinformed though... any songs that are a little harder or less lilting and wussy?

I'd like to like him.

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I'll actually second the nomination of Mustaine over Hetfield. My favorite Metallica songs are on Kill Em All and they are co-written by Dave Mustaine. I like his voice better too. Matter of taste though. The Metallica vs. Megadeath debate was huge when I was young.

I agree with you assessment of Matthews, though. I can't figure out what people like about him.

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You fools have all overlooked the two best of the last 15 years:

Billy Corgan
and
Thom Yorke

I can understand someone not liking either one of them for their voice, but their songwriting abilities are matched by very very few.

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I don't think he qualifies at all... I don't think he "writes" any of the music for Tool either, other then maybe the lyrics. From the few interviews I've read/heard its more of a collaborative process with them.

Ryan Adams is a great nomination.

I would also nominate Jim James from My Morning Jacket, easily one of my favorites.
Willie Nelson?
Waylon Jennings?
I'm not too sure what % of their music each wrote, but even if it was only 50% I would consider both of them along with the already mentioned Johnny Cash.

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I was going to point this out as well...

What genre was Wesly Willis?

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Hank Williams

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I hold in high regard the following:

Yorke
Keenan
Tweedy
Sufjan
and
Gordon Lightfoot.

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Beck cuts across several genres and is always money.

Edit - Sea Change might be the best break-up album of all-time

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try:

halloween
the stone
dont drink the water
all along the watchtower (yes, I know it's not originally his)
Minarets
Warehouse
Dancing Nancies

They get lighter and more 'peppy' as you go down the list, almost to the point where Warehouse and Nancies are sorta hybrids, but these are some of the darker ones (yes that's a relative term).

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my favorite modern singer songwriter is sufjan stevens

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If he continues what he is doing he is going to be recognized in the next few albums as one of the best in the last 25 years---in any genre.

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Sh*tbreak?

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Okay, I really have to ask this, because alot of you guys seem like normal dudes... whats with all the folk music?

Im really not trying to be insulting, but the only folk music I've ever heard wasnt exactly what I would call mind-shattering. Different Strokes though.

Its a shame to hear about Tool and APC, their lyrics are unbelievable.

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Eclecitc- Costello
Folksy- Cohen

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no one has said elliot smith yet...this thread sucks.

also add - prince, lionel richie, brian wilson, and bono/edge.

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Exactly.

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Paul Simon rates a mention

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Its a shame to hear about Tool and APC, their lyrics are unbelievable.

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why is that a shame? now you've got 2 artists you like. they'll do different stuff, and if one dies or quits or changes in some way you don't like you've still got the other one.

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Actually I dont think tool is making music anymore, since keenan went to apc. What I mean is that its kinda disheartening, thinking all this time that keenan was a genius, when he didnt even write the stuff.

kinda like if you loved Kermit, then found out he was just a puppet with some guys hand up his ass. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Actually I dont think tool is making music anymore, since keenan went to apc.

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look at the release dates of mer de noms and lateralus

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I agree with you assessment of Matthews, though. I can't figure out what people like about him.

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You can either love Dave Matthews or hate him, there is no inbetween. I know dozens of people who, at one time, hated Dave Matthews only to admit that he was their favorite musician after listening to him for an extended period of time. I happen to be one of those people. His music doesn't hit right away and it takes time to appreciate the subtlety and intesity of it.

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