What does \"kill\" mean
 

When a B&M offers 4/8 LHE with 1/2 kill, what does the kill mean?

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When a B&M offers 4/8 LHE with 1/2 kill, what does the kill mean?

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A good definition of kill pots on card player .

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if the pot reaches a certain size and its scooped by one player, the player would have to post $6 in front and the game would be 6/12... a full kill would be 8/16$

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Thanks for both answers.

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I've played 4-8 in Vegas where there was a 1/2 kill after 2 consecutive wins - very lame and rarely happens.

I've also played the 5-10 at Foxwoods where there is a full kill after a previous pot reaches $100. Lots of wild swings, luck plays a larger factor in your potential win.

Any other casinos offering kill games?

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Just to be clear. There are two kinds of kills. Both double the stakes. In Type #1, the stakes double on the next hand if the current pot was >$X and was not chopped. In Type #2, the stakes double when the same player wins two pots in a row. In type #2 kills, the winner receives with his first pot, a small disk that says "leg up", and if he wins again, the disk is flipped over so it says "killer".

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Vegas plays mostly 1/2 kill in the 4-8 game, so the game goes to 6-12, not 8-16.

Is there any point to all this?
 

Or are kills just for silly punters that enjoy raising the stakes for no reason?

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Ummm... kill is great for us sharks. Anytime you can get the fishes to lose their money faster this is good. You are competing with the rake for the fishes' chips. Does increase variance, though. Losing a kill pot really burns.

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Just to be clear. There are two kinds of kills. Both double the stakes. In Type #1, the stakes double on the next hand if the current pot was >$X and was not chopped. In Type #2, the stakes double when the same player wins two pots in a row. In type #2 kills, the winner receives with his first pot, a small disk that says "leg up", and if he wins again, the disk is flipped over so it says "killer".

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Derek is correct, though I've seen #2 in Hold Em games, and #1 mostly in Omaha Hi/Lo. Never saw #1 in Hold Em.

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I read in one of the 2+2 books (can't remember which) that kill pots using method #2 (two pots won in a row by same player) punish the fishies and laggies because they play more pots and therefore have more of a chance to have to kill a pot by posting the $8 in 4/8. I think this makes sense and is a good reason for a TAG to like 4/8 kill.

Cache Creek Indian Casino in N Calif. spreads a 4/8 full kill game and I like it. The variance can be a bitch though...

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Ummm... kill is great for us sharks. Anytime you can get the fishes to lose their money faster this is good. You are competing with the rake for the fishes' chips. Does increase variance, though. Losing a kill pot really burns.

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This is right. I play in regular 4/8 and 6/12 games at a local cardroom that have full kills (bets double) when a player wins two pots in a row. And the loonies really come out for the killpots. All of the normally loose/passive fishy gamblers will loosen up even more and play just about any two cards for a shot at a huge payday.

This (the fact that your big cards somewhat more often get cracked by any one of 6 or 7 random hands) really adds to the variance that is already there from playing quite a few hands of 12/24 per session.

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How is the 5/10 Kill at Foxwoods anyways? What percentage of hands gets killed(ie should I bring a buy in for 10/20)?

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How is the 5/10 Kill at Foxwoods anyways? What percentage of hands gets killed(ie should I bring a buy in for 10/20)?

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Yes.

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I have played both the FW 5/10 kill and the 10/20. On one 5/10 kill table, it was quite tight, all older players. Chopped blinds, 3-handed pots, etc. I asked for a table change and moved to a rockin 5/10 kill table. So after you get seated, make sure to look around and tell the floor you want onto a particular table. (My wife was very helpful in scouting tables for me. Basically, she watched all the 5/10 kill tables and recommended the one to me that was most multihanded to the flop.)

Now more broadly, if you have the bankroll, I'd recommend skipping the 5/10 kill entirely and play the 10/20, which was quite soft. During the 14 or so hours that I played the 10/20, I felt there were always around 4 major donators at the table. Pots wont go 6 or 7 handed to the flop, but there will pretty much always be 2 donators in a 4 handed pot.

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I play 3/6 a lot at Casino AZ and there you have to win 2 pots in a row with the 2nd of the 2 being >30$ for it to be a kill. At CasinoAZ all 3/6 tables are played with a full kill.

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Just to be clear. There are two kinds of kills. Both double the stakes. In Type #1, the stakes double on the next hand if the current pot was >$X and was not chopped. In Type #2, the stakes double when the same player wins two pots in a row. In type #2 kills, the winner receives with his first pot, a small disk that says "leg up", and if he wins again, the disk is flipped over so it says "killer".

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Derek is correct, though I've seen #2 in Hold Em games, and #1 mostly in Omaha Hi/Lo. Never saw #1 in Hold Em.

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I have played #1 in hold'em. The cardroom has a popular round-and-round Hold'em and Omaha/8 game with a 1/2 kill. The kill works the same in both games. Anytime they spread a straight hold'em game with a kill, it is also #1.