Kxs on button, after a limper
Quick simple question here.
I have Kxs on button (K6-K2). One loose/passive guy limps ahead of me. Sb is very loose/passive, and will defend blinds with anything. BB appears relatively solid, not overly anything. Is this a raise preflop? |
Re: Kxs on button, after a limper
My cutoff would be K8S here.
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Re: Kxs on button, after a limper
ill raise K5s most of the time here. raising lower than that is pushing it imo, unless you know that the SB/EP are horrible postflop.
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Wow, I wouldn't go any lower than KTs. There's a pretty decent chance you're going to be in a 4-handed pot with K-nothing, with a very tiny chance of getting heads-up. I don't think position gives you enough here.
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ill raise K5s most of the time here. raising lower than that is pushing it imo, unless you know that the SB/EP are horrible postflop. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't raise lower than K5s, does this mean you're folding or limping? |
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I would raise K7s 1 limper, fold any lower
2 limpers Id call K6s-K4s, not sure which id raise unless in game, probably Kts, call rest |
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Wow, I wouldn't go any lower than KTs. [/ QUOTE ] Folding K9s here seems absurdly tight. Krishan |
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excuse me for being a pre-flop nazi but isnt the size of your crappy kicker only a bees dick in the total equation ?
if i know i likely have some equity on the limper with a crappy suited king and i figure i am good odds to win before a showdown then i like raise - i usually auto fold hands that contain a 2 or a 3 but everything else would be where i am not what i've got if i have K9s then i'm raising because i have the best hand stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
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Actually, I'd raise KTo but I'm pretty sure I've been folding K9s. My VPIP is about 23, if I remember correctly.
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Actually, I'd raise KTo but I'm pretty sure I've been folding K9s. [/ QUOTE ] You just aren't correctly valuing K9s. Krishan |
Re: Kxs on button, after a limper
Hold on there, Krishan, you don't get off that easy:
Can you answer the original question? Do you raise with Kxs? If not, how high must your kicker be here (in conditions I described initially)? And if you're not raising with K6s, do you limp or fold? |
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Can you answer the original question? Do you raise with Kxs? [/ QUOTE ] I'll raise k7s 70%, k8s 100%. Limp the rest. I am unsure if the limping is a good idea. If the blinds are tight I might raise them all. If they are tenacious I might limp k9s. I'll always raise kts. Krishan |
Re: Kxs on button, after a limper
Raise K5s+
Raise K9o+ If blinds are super passive, I would limp the other Kings. What the hell, god knows I have limped much worse on the button. My preflop game just goes to total sh*t when that sweet little thing comes around [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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With one limper and two blinds that are likely to come along, I should be raising K8s+?
If so, I seriously need to look at other hands I'm not raising after a limper, such as A6s. |
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You don't have to follow my guidelines. Preflop doesn't really matter anyway. The thing is, you should have a internally consistent set of preflop rules. And folding K9s after a limper 100% of the time and raising KTo is internally inconsistent since K9s is as good a hand as KTo.
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If so, I seriously need to look at other hands I'm not raising after a limper, such as A6s. [/ QUOTE ] yes you do |
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With one limper and two blinds that are likely to come along, I should be raising K8s+? If so, I seriously need to look at other hands I'm not raising after a limper, such as A6s. [/ QUOTE ] Not that it matters much, but my original question meant to imply that the sb would definitely call, but that the bb was a "solid" player, capable of folding trash. |
Re: Kxs on button, after a limper
Right, but after SB calls, he's going to be getting some pretty good odds, so it'll be easy to come along with a lot of hands.
Can anyone convince me that playing K5s in a four-way pot - and putting in one BB to do so - is a good idea? |
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