flop/turn questionable...how bad did i mess this up
 

UTG something like 34/17, BB loose passive ish, probably 50/5 or something.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds

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You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan

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You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan

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yes i was planning on raising any turn but then i saw all that flop action and decided against it. i think i should ahve raised it anyways and just folded to a 3bet.

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baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.

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baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.

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yeah, jesus, no wonder ive been losing recently. im gonna drop down to .5/1 until i figure out how to play poker again.

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i can totally relate to this hand. i find myself doing this bs way too much.

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ok, sry.
youre the best.

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I think this officially takes away your LAG status.

That is what you were trying to do... right?

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i agree 100% that you need to raise flop....question for the field??? lets walk through this becuase it happens all the time to me. I raise, someone then 3bets......I will cap. the club falls......check / fold if two players are in? i seem to spew chips here....ill get check / raised or call down two more bets. trying to tighten up post flop. thoughts?

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ok, sry.
youre the best.

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uh...no i was agreeing. two 180+ downswings in 4 days.

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What happened in between the two downswings to make them separate? If I have two 180BB downswings in 4 days, that's a 360BB downswing.

Raise the flop, by the way. I save the call-flop-raise-turn line for heads up pots.

Guy.

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What happened in between the two downswings to make them separate? If I have two 180BB downswings in 4 days, that's a 360BB downswing.


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the two 180+ downswings came quickly...one in 2300 hands, one was 220BB in 3000 hands. I played each of these out in one day.

What separated them was a 400BB upswing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but still, i cant help but feel like [censored] when i drop so much so fast repeatedly/.

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the two 180+ downswings came quickly...one in 2300 hands, one was 220BB in 3000 hands. I played each of these out in one day.

What separated them was a 400BB upswing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but still, i cant help but feel like [censored] when i drop so much so fast repeatedly/.

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All this says to me is that you're playing a high-variance style. If that is so, then just stop thinking about 200BB as a swing. Fret when they get to 400.

Guy.