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12-12-2005 11:30 AM

Being a donkey from time to time
 
I am usually a pretty solid player and over the weekend I played in a home tounament. 25 dollar buy in, one rebuy for full amount, and 10 dollar add-on after rebuys are over. I played the rock the entire tourney. Only got my money in with the best of it. Before getting heads up, I probably only played maybe six hands and all of them were monster pots. Anyway, enough background...heads up is going well for me as I have the chip lead and I am forcing my opponent to a decision for all his chips almost every hand. Finally, I get AcKc on the small blind. I just call, hoping to get him to through his remaining chips in. He just checks. Flop comes 6h jc 2s. He puts all his money in the pot About 4000 in chips to my overwhelming 25000 plus. I immediately call (no idea why, brain fart I guess) He flips Qh 6d. The turn is a Ks. The river is a meaningless 2c. He gets pissed as I just busted him by being a donkey. Was this poor play on my part like he said? Or was I correct to call with my two overs to the board and hope to get lucky for the win?

varoadstter 12-12-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
Well, you'd be pissed if the shoe were on the other foot, surely. Other than that with your chip stack you could afford to try for the kill. You certainly had outs and no real reason to fear that board. Tough luck for your opp. Move on.

ChrisAJ 12-12-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
How could he flip a 6h with one on the board?

Assuming it was something else... he went all in with Q high? Or a pair of sixes, assuming a different suit?

I dunno... I think its an easy call.

12-12-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
I'm sorry. It was 6d. He had a pair od sixes.

ChrisAJ 12-12-2005 11:42 AM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
He should be pissed at himself for pushing with sixes.

12-12-2005 12:11 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
True. I didn't look at it that way. I just felt bad because he went on and on about "donkey stuff". I also felt bad after taking some more money off them playing dice afterward. Not too bad though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. PS. C-Lo is becoming one of my favorite dice games.

jojobinks 12-12-2005 12:22 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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He should be pissed at himself for pushing with sixes.

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i dunno. i usually don't get pissed at myself for pushing as a 75% favorite.

do you?

ChrisAJ 12-12-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
I suppose it depends. Granted, I don't know what the blinds were up to. But I don't know that I would have chosen that particular time to go all in with sixes - short stacked against a guy who can clearly afford a call and probably will.

12-12-2005 12:53 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
We capped the blinds at 600 1200 at that point. He really was running out of options

Lottery Larry 12-12-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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I am usually a pretty solid player and over the weekend I played in a home tounament. 25 dollar buy in, one rebuy for full amount, and 10 dollar add-on after rebuys are over. I played the rock the entire tourney. Only got my money in with the best of it. Before getting heads up, I probably only played maybe six hands and all of them were monster pots. Anyway, enough background...heads up is going well for me as I have the chip lead and I am forcing my opponent to a decision for all his chips almost every hand. Finally, I get AcKc on the small blind. I just call, hoping to get him to through his remaining chips in. He just checks. Flop comes 6h jc 2s. He puts all his money in the pot About 4000 in chips to my overwhelming 25000 plus. I immediately call (no idea why, brain fart I guess) He flips Qh 6d. The turn is a Ks. The river is a meaningless 2c. He gets pissed as I just busted him by being a donkey. Was this poor play on my part like he said? Or was I correct to call with my two overs to the board and hope to get lucky for the win?

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He's playing Q6off, finding himself against AKs, and is complaining that YOU'RE the donkey? If the blinds were 1200/2400, you could call with a lot of worse hands than AK against an all-in. He was lucky on the flop, got beaten, he should stop whining.

BTW, this statement "I am usually a pretty solid player " was a waste of typing- it has no relevance.

Kaeser 12-12-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
I think you both played it fine. He's got 4K left with blinds at 600/1200. You didn't raise pre-flop so he probably thinks your not particularly strong. I'd probably push any two on that flop.

As for your call, you're getting 1.5 to 1 pot odds. Losing doesn't hurt your chipstack but winning ends the tournament. You could easily have the best hand going but if not your only a 3-1 dog to improve.

12-12-2005 03:42 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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BTW, this statement "I am usually a pretty solid player " was a waste of typing- it has no relevance.

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Yeah. Looking back on it now, I don't know why I put that. Truth be told I should have opened the post with a big thank you to the 2+2ers on the board. Reading alot of posts here as improved my game a lot and no doubt had a hand in my winning this tounament.

12-12-2005 05:01 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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He's playing Q6off, finding himself against AKs, and is complaining that YOU'RE the donkey?

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Small correction. He went all-in after the flop. So it wasn't AKs versus Q6o. It was a pair of 6s versus two overcards.

Lottery Larry 12-12-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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BTW, this statement "I am usually a pretty solid player " was a waste of typing- it has no relevance.

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Yeah. Looking back on it now, I don't know why I put that. Truth be told I should have opened the post with a big thank you to the 2+2ers on the board. Reading alot of posts here as improved my game a lot and no doubt had a hand in my winning this tounament.

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Okay, kissing our butts isn't relevant either :P

Lottery Larry 12-12-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
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He's playing Q6off, finding himself against AKs, and is complaining that YOU'RE the donkey?

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Small correction. He went all-in after the flop. So it wasn't AKs versus Q6o. It was a pair of 6s versus two overcards.

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So what? He was lucky to get a free flop and catch lower pair against a big hand. He was outdrawn, as often happens. If you're folding overcards to every short-stacked all-in move in a tourney, you're playing more like a donkey than the OP did.

What my point was, the person who lost is just whining and should stop it. He got outdrawn with a short stack, it happens, grow up.

tonypaladino 12-13-2005 12:24 AM

Re: Being a donkey from time to time
 
Poketducks,

Tell the BB to grow up.


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