Online all-in etiquette question...
 

I just "played" a tournament where I joined a table for a HU SNG with someone already there. On the first hand, he is set "all in" for some reason.

On subsequent hands, blinds are posted. If I raise, he folds. He auto-folds the SB.

Is there proper etiquette here? Is it somehow wrong to raise the BB each hand and simply take it down?

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It's not illegal for you to do so, you agree to the risks involved in online play when you sign up and when you're seated. If you wanted to be a nice guy you could stall and fold your SB as well for a few mintues until he gets back but nobody is forcing you to do so.

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I would give him 3 minutes to return.

Then if he doesn't then take his buyin.

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I have been booted a few times and nobody ever waited for me so I say screw em.(ok so maybe I am a little bitter)

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Lol. Don't wait for him. Take his blinds as fast as you can. Are you kidding?

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as you can see from the responses here that nobody will give you time so why give them time?

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It's not illegal for you to do so, you agree to the risks involved in online play when you sign up and when you're seated. If you wanted to be a nice guy you could stall and fold your SB as well for a few mintues until he gets back but nobody is forcing you to do so.

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Yes. If he is offline for a long time, he is actually using your time(if you are waiting and not taking his blinds). Time is money, he is wasting your time, so you should take his money. Don't feel bad about it, he would have done the same thing.

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Lol. Don't wait for him. Take his blinds as fast as you can. Are you kidding?

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do you refund someone their buyin when you knock them out a tournament too?

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OP:

I've been in both situations. When I was the DC'd player, I called Bodog and got my money back because it was a problem with their software.

In the other situation (HU SNG), I stalled as long as I could. The guy came back in something like 4 minutes. I raised the amount of money I had won while he was offline and told him to raise so that I could fold and we'd be even. If it had gone on much longer (say up to around 7 or 8 minutes), I'd contact support and ask them to kill the match and return money to me and the other player. I'd expect the same courtesy in return, though I likely wouldn't get it. However, I'm not going to angle shoot just because someone else does.

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If it's not a HU match, there is nothing wrong with taking the blinds every time.

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Even if it is HU there is nothing wrong with taking the blinds. Are you guys serious who said they would wait??

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I raise every time as fast as humanly possible until he comes back to the table.

Sure, you could do the "right" thing - but connection problems on someone else's end shouldn't force you (per the moral policy) to begin hating money.

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OP:

I've been in both situations. When I was the DC'd player, I called Bodog and got my money back because it was a problem with their software.

In the other situation (HU SNG), I stalled as long as I could. The guy came back in something like 4 minutes. I raised the amount of money I had won while he was offline and told him to raise so that I could fold and we'd be even. If it had gone on much longer (say up to around 7 or 8 minutes), I'd contact support and ask them to kill the match and return money to me and the other player. I'd expect the same courtesy in return, though I likely wouldn't get it. However, I'm not going to angle shoot just because someone else does.

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wow... a true gentleman... It's nice to have these around still...

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No offense, but you are a fool and could have been banned for collusion.

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Against an unknown player I will most likely go ahead and take the blinds, unless I was playing at a buy-in that isn't significant to me. I did have this happen once when heads-up at a 6-7 man tourney against an opponent that I had been playing with and chatting with all day, and I ran out my clock each hand until he returned (we were both doing empire MTT runs for VIP points). I have to have a reason of some sort to do this though, normally I would just take the blinds.

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No offense, but you are a fool and could have been banned for collusion.

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ummm what??? It's heads up!!!!!

And if it's like a 4-player heads up, and you split the pot, that's perfectly legit... After all, both ppl beat separate players on different tables...

You have no idea what you're talking about man!!!!!

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No offense, but you are a fool and could have been banned for collusion.

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I just "played" a tournament where I joined a table for a HU SNG with someone already there. On the first hand, he is set "all in" for some reason.

On subsequent hands, blinds are posted. If I raise, he folds. He auto-folds the SB.

Is there proper etiquette here? Is it somehow wrong to raise the BB each hand and simply take it down?

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I would implore the other players to stall until he got back and if they didn't I would start crying.

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I would implore the other players to stall until he got back and if they didn't I would start crying.

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nh

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I am not convince waiting is the "right" thing to do. IF you are trying ot make friends, maybe it is. If you are playing to make money, its part of the game, especially in this medium. However, its part of the game in B&M too. If you are away from the table, you post and fold. I would take his buy in and expect him to do the same.

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Sorry for the bump, just wanted to respond.

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Are you guys serious who said they would wait??

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Yes.

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Sure, you could do the "right" thing - but connection problems on someone else's end shouldn't force you (per the moral policy) to begin hating money.

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I don't hate money. I just don't think it's right to do it. Do unto others...

Also, I'm looking to make money playing poker, not by what I consider to be shooting angles.

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No offense, but you are a fool and could have been banned for collusion.

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No offense but you are an idiot. Who am I colluding with? Who am I colluding against? Myself?

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I am not convince waiting is the "right" thing to do. If you are trying ot make friends, maybe it is. If you are playing to make money, its part of the game, especially in this medium. However, its part of the game in B&M too. If you are away from the table, you post and fold. I would take his buy in and expect him to do the same.

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I'm just doing it because I do think it's right. And how does it apply on the net more than B&M? A person in a B&M made a conscious decision to get up and were well aware of the consequences (btw, I assume you're talking about a tourney, not a cash game). On the net, if someone's gone for > 5 minutes, they're almost certainly disconnected.

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I would implore the other players to stall until he got back and if they didn't I would start crying.

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vnh

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tripp, you chip dumped.

people have had their accounts locked up for all sorts of strange things.

players have had their accounts closed for chip dumping at heads-up cash tables. So, you are an idiot.

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Turneys are about stealing the blinds. This is a turney. Steal the [censored] blinds.

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I would implore the other players to stall until he got back and if they didn't I would start crying.

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...and then I would pull myself together and make it to the final table only to blow it on a bad semi-bluff.

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OP:

I've been in both situations. When I was the DC'd player, I called Bodog and got my money back because it was a problem with their software.

In the other situation (HU SNG), I stalled as long as I could. The guy came back in something like 4 minutes. I raised the amount of money I had won while he was offline and told him to raise so that I could fold and we'd be even. If it had gone on much longer (say up to around 7 or 8 minutes), I'd contact support and ask them to kill the match and return money to me and the other player. I'd expect the same courtesy in return, though I likely wouldn't get it. However, I'm not going to angle shoot just because someone else does.

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good deal. This is what I would do as well. I dont buy all that "well theyd do it to you, so you do it to them" its angle shooting plain and simple IMO. I however wouldnt wait on support, if it went on longer than 5 minutes id just run his stack down and then transfer him his buy in back. Tho I guess Id be eating the vig. So contacting support is the way to go. But if the site I was at is anything like party, im not wasting my time with support, so id prolly just transfer him back his buy-in less whatever I had to pay the house. Which I still think is fair.

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I wait for a while, but you have no compulsion to do so.

Mack

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tripp, you chip dumped.

people have had their accounts locked up for all sorts of strange things.

players have had their accounts closed for chip dumping at heads-up cash tables. So, you are an idiot.

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One of my biggest pet peeves is dealing with idiots. You, sir, are an idiot.

I am not chip dumping if I give a guy his chips back that I won while he was disconnected. Chip dumping is the act of one player giving his chips to another so that the second has an edge over others. My giving chips back is for fairness, not so that he has an edge over me.