EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

what winner will make the game best for you in the coming year?

gus?

moneymaker repeat?

college geek?

complete unknown from midwest?

non-white? non-middle-aged? non-male?

state your game and who you think will bring the most loose money into the game.

fim

(ignore those already eliminated, assume the field is still all in the running)

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21 yr old gangster.

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brad garrett (seriously)

btw, i walked in same time as him and he is not as gigantic as i thought. i had thought he was freakishly tall. he's barely taller than hellmuth

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A popular celebrity

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Shannon Elizabet, think of all the fishy females that would try their hand at online poker. It's the biggest untapped contingent, would majorly boost the profitability of many online sites at low-medium limits and would officially make poker "cool".

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HavanaBanana, but only b/c I have won some stake in him.

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Daryn or Paluka.

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Me.

Second = Neverwin

Third = One of those silly Magic Card Guys

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Shannon Elizabet, think of all the fishy females that would try their hand at online poker. It's the biggest untapped contingent, would majorly boost the profitability of many online sites at low-medium limits and would officially make poker "cool".

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what makes you think this would encourage women to play? I think this would do little for women, as they mostly don't pay attention to females in the same way guys do. Can you see a girl saying "Shannon Elizabeth is so hot, and she's good at poker, if I was good at poker, I would be hot too"

More likely I can see "Wow, Ben Affleck won that big poker game, if I got good at poker, I might be able to hang out with Ben Affleck"

But I think most likely to inviting to women to play would be a normal, non-famous woman winning, because that would lead to "look, women can play and win this game too, even if they aren't a big star with loads of money"

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Either a Raymer or a Moneymaker repeat. It would give the illusion that it's an easy game to beat and that would bring even more fish onto the tables trying to play final table move in poker into deep stack NL cash games. Or alternatively a very aggro pro like Gus Hansen or Toto, the more fish who try to do emulate late tournament style poker on NL cash games the better.

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An underground poker regular.

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Shannon Elizabeth

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brad garrett (seriously)

btw, i walked in same time as him and he is not as gigantic as i thought. i had thought he was freakishly tall. he's barely taller than hellmuth

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Isn't Hellmuth 6'6"? If so, 6'6" is quite tall.

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too bad its not going to happy by bgreenstein1, he donates all tournies $ to charity.

+EV to the world, not necessarily so for poker

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http://www.pokervoice.com/pics/muppet.jpg

This ought to result in generations of new players.

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I love the unbearably bored look on the guys next to him. YOUR PLAYING THE MAIN EVENT NEXT TO ELMO LOOK AWAKE!!!!

Ken

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Havent read other responses, so sorry if i repeat.

The correct answer is a woman. Any woman. Preferably nice looking and articulate in front of the cameras. Being a housewife and mother helps too.

Phill

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If they don't change the rules regarding Elmo, whats to stop the final table from being a whole bunch of masked characters? We could have showdowns between Kermit, Pluto, and Mickey Mouse before its all over. That will broaden the appeal of poker further from college kids to children. Very high EV for us.

Re: EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

either a celebrity who isn't noted as a poker player (i.e. not ben affleck or spiderman, but someone like, i don't know, topher grace) or doyle brunson.

if doyle wins it's the biggest poker story of the last 5 years and that inherently brings in more fish, b/c more people will watch and they get to see gus hansen go all-in w/ 8Ts during the broadcast and that's +EV for me.

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Since Barry Greenstein donates his tournament winnings to assorted good causes, if he had won it would have definitely been +EV for the world.

Everyone seems to think a woman would be a good candidate. As a woman, I think that would be moderately -EV for me, personally. (I get underestimated a lot at the poker table.)

And I think, by and large, women play tighter than men, so I'm not 100% convinced that the money brought in would be nice and loose.

But if one wants to bring women in (which would be a nice vast assortment of novice players) I vote for a soccer mom. Whoever said Shannon Elizabeth wouldn't bring in the women was dead on. She would just increase the number of <21 year old males trying to crash the ME next year.

Personally, I vote for a Gus Hansen variety. (No disrespect to Gus.) The thought of a bunch of poor players trying to bluff into me with 47o all next year gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

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<-----Corey

Definately the most +EV for me.

If not me, then another 2+2'er. If not another 2+2'er, a good looking, outgoing 21-25 year old, regardless of gender.

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Some young pimple faced kid...oh, wait...that was already done in 1989. Ok, some young kid that has only been playing for six months, and won his seat in a $1.00 online tournament [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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complete unknown from midwest?

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I would prefer someone who can popularize hold'em in Asia. Asia (China and Japan) is full of enthusiastic gamblers and arguably the biggest untapped market in the world . Hold'em is pretty much unknown in the east right now, and if it ever gets as big as mahjong or pachinko, we would easily have 100 million new fish at party. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I agree, Hanson or any unorthodox type of player would great. Also, Elmo.

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Since Barry Greenstein donates his tournament winnings to assorted good causes, if he had won it would have definitely been +EV for the world.

Everyone seems to think a woman would be a good candidate. As a woman, I think that would be moderately -EV for me, personally. (I get underestimated a lot at the poker table.)

And I think, by and large, women play tighter than men, so I'm not 100% convinced that the money brought in would be nice and loose.

But if one wants to bring women in (which would be a nice vast assortment of novice players) I vote for a soccer mom. Whoever said Shannon Elizabeth wouldn't bring in the women was dead on. She would just increase the number of <21 year old males trying to crash the ME next year.

Personally, I vote for a Gus Hansen variety. (No disrespect to Gus.) The thought of a bunch of poor players trying to bluff into me with 47o all next year gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

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Strictly on the basis of this post and your handle I am now attracted to you. If we ever meet in real life, I'd like a smooch.

fim

Re: EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

Daryn winning will do the most for my bankroll.

-SmileyEH

Re: EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

The correct answer is obviously "whoever would generate the most mainstream media coverage"

Obviously an attractive, young celebrity, male or female, tops that list.

Next, maybe a repeating well known pro, preferable Doyle.

Third, a woman, any woman.

Fourth, someone reasonably hip-looking, e.g. a young black male, maybe Darden.

I think the "internet unknown" has played itself out over the last two years and would no longer be a story.

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Elmo, of course. If not Elmo, then some first-tourney-ever never-read-a-book-in-my-life luckbox that makes Moneymaker look like Barry Greenstein.

The more people that think that anyone can win at poker with just street smarts and instinct, the fuller my wallet will get.

Re: EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

Aamazon, since I have a small piece or her action. If that doesn't happen, I would love to see Greg win it again so all the haters will STFU for good.

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An Elmo win would prolly bring in the most fishies.

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Oh just some douche bag would be +EV

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yeah, i'm pretty sure the answer is myself

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Yeah ok you worthless bastard!

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hmm.. you're right, it's not me. go paluka!

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Die!

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at some point i will, i promise

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No, Kill yourself now. You are worthless.

Re: EV wise, who do you want to win WSOPME?
 

Phil Hellmuth Jr.

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no, you kill yourself now. your gimmick account is worthless.


must suck to initiate this and then get owned