why did you choose fixed limit shorthanded?
 

I just thought about this.. What are the reasons you play limit shorthanded?
Why not NL?
I'm not gonna ask "what is the most profitable?" because thats a stupid question I guess... But still..
I can't help thinking there is a possibility I made the wrong choice on FL instead of NL.. Can someone please straight my thoughts out?

The reason I started FL was because I didn't like to loose big pots, I got devastated loosing a "big" pot at 0,01/0,2..
When moving up, I didn't have the will or energy to learn NL, so I just kept going on FL and finally made the jump to shorthanded..

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What are the reasons you play limit shorthanded?

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Because I hate myself.


And also, shorthanded teaches you to play alot stronger and more aggressively, this is a trait I didnt have when I was a fullhanded player.

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if you're not too far up the SH ladder (i dont really know how long you've been playing) id suggest trying to specialize in SNGs. They have MUCH less risk vs reward. Plus they are better at tournaments.

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picking SH over full ring was kinda easy.. SH is more profitable.. atleast I have heard...

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Well..

In my 3rd week of SH play (about 35k or 40k hands into it), I had a downswing that was about 3x bigger than my worst downswing at 3/6 fullhanded. And I played 3/6 fullhanded professionally for 300kish hands.

As of yet, I havent learned to beat 5/10 6max for more than I could beat 3/6 10max.

Its a hard game, but I've played a few 10max games lately and I can honestly say that my SH play has brought my game way above where it was before my 6max experience.

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I've been playing NL on the side (aka while doing hw) for like 3 weeks now and it seems easier than SHFL.

I guess i just like getting punched in the face. over and over again. And when i get lonely i open 1 table of 10/20 6max and then cry myself to sleep.

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B/c theres more action in SH than in NL. While NL revolves aroudn 1 or 2 pivital decisions, in SHFL, your making tons of decisions every hand. Your playing more hands w/SH and your pushing smaller edges.

I've tried my hand at NL a few times and while its kinda fun for a short time, it gets real boring real fast. You don't push the same types of edges and get folded out of a lot of pots if the flop doesn't hit you just right.

FWIW, I think limit is just a more profitable, all be it more frustrating, game. Once you start climbing the limits to 15/30 and beyond, the profit potential of limit is greater than that of NL.

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I just thought about this.. What are the reasons you play limit shorthanded?
Why not NL?
I'm not gonna ask "what is the most profitable?" because thats a stupid question I guess... But still..
I can't help thinking there is a possibility I made the wrong choice on FL instead of NL.. Can someone please straight my thoughts out?

The reason I started FL was because I didn't like to loose big pots, I got devastated loosing a "big" pot at 0,01/0,2..
When moving up, I didn't have the will or energy to learn NL, so I just kept going on FL and finally made the jump to shorthanded..

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Becauase when I started NL was not popular in casinos and online was not very popular at all. Now I play short instead full because I think there is a lot for me to learn at the 10/20 short tables that will make me a better player and enable me to move higher.

I will stop playing limit poker sometime soon to focus on learning:
NL Holdem, full and short
PL Omaha
Limit O/8

Within the next 6 months I want to be good at all of these games. When I say good I mean that I would like to be able to pay in the $600-$2000 buy in NL and PL games and want to be a winner in at least 10/20 O/8 but wouldn't be really happy unless I can beat 20/40.

All of this may be a pipe dream because it's tough to give up garunteed cash flow.

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playing NL is like watching paint dry.

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playing NL is like watching paint dry.

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Lol

Barry greenstein said the same thing
except about FL

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what makes you want to learn the other games? As you said, hard to give up the cash.
You do it just so you wont get bored or because +EV?

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Because this is where all the cool kids hang out.

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Because, in a nutshell, I don't have the balls for NL. 50BB swings in 1 hand are too much for. Getting raised the pot when I have TPTK is almost impossible for me to know what to do. Is it really worth the rest of my stack to see the showdown with just top pair? If I fold, I'll be bluffed off of pots right and left.

Limit seems like a better game to me. Moves have to be more subtle as you're working on small EV lines. Just the fact that limit robots are harder to write that NL bots helps back up the fact that limit is a harder game to master.

At least, for people like me that lack the stomach for NL, that's what I tell myself.

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I was wondering the same thing as i still suck at poker but whenever i go play NL i really do get bored id much rahter be able to 3 bet a lag all day long... So which is more profitable for an hourly rate and how do you compare differnet nl stakes to limit stakes like what is "equal"

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what makes you want to learn the other games? As you said, hard to give up the cash.
You do it just so you wont get bored or because +EV?

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Because learning the other games will make me better at all games.

Because it will allow me to change it up when I do get bored or frustrated.

Because it gives me game selection, which is not very important on the net but is more important live.

Because I aspire to play limits of 100/200+ and games this high are often mixed and even if they aren't sometimes they are not holdem (when I was at the WSOP the biggest games was 100/200 stud hi-lo that I could see).

Because some of those games may be more +EV, but I won't know until I play them.

Most importantly... because it would make poker more fun.

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playing NL is like watching paint dry.

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It's a lot more interesting shorthanded. I also find ten-handed NL tedious, but four-handed, you get to be involved in a lot of interesting situations like in shorthanded limit.

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I can't help thinking there is a possibility I made the wrong choice on FL instead of NL

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Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on. It's not too late to play a lot of NL and decide for yourself whether it is the better game for you. You'll get a much better sense which is for you by spending time playing both than by asking other people which they perfer.

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I prefer limit to no limit mainly because it's what I started to play first. I also hated the idea of potentially losing everything in your stack in one hand. Waaaay back when I was still messing around on limit play money tables, I played exclusively at short handed tables because I got sick of waiting for cards at a full table. Once I started playing seriously, I discovered I played much better at a full table, so since I like money I learned to prefer full tables. Then a few months ago, I realized I couldn't profit much more playing full tables online if I wanted to go past 3-6, so I made the jump to 5-10 SH. Now that I'm used to limit SH play, I'm completely hooked. It's loads more fun and there's so much more variety in situations I come across. Full tables typically bore me now (though I appreciate my improved play at them from playing so much SH).

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Shorthanded teaches you to play alot stronger and more aggressively, this is a trait I didnt have when I was a fullhanded player.

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Also, $1/$2 SH LHE is a sweet spot for Party/Paradise bonii.
When I'm ready, $2/$4 SH LHE is a sweet spot for the UB/Stars/InterPoker bonii.

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playing NL is like watching paint dry.

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Very well said:

http://tinyurl.com/bq8w9

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I wish I'd picked 7cardstud hi-lo or PLO...actually the reason i'm here is one day i stumbled on a post which said vehn was a limit holdem god and apparently he played alot of SH Holdem.

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because its the only kind of poker that doesnt bore me to tears.

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Its been said before...but I find shorthanded limit cash games awesome and NL much more exciting and bearable in a tourny structure.

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Because I hate myself.

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yep. i'm convinced every HUSHer is an extremely unstable masochist.

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great mind think alike I suppose.

although after reading this thread, I assume that NL SH is probably more interesting, but there is a good reason that limit poker has higher variance than NL. Nothing happens in NL, thats why!

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Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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Nice.

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I'm an action junkie. Full ring seems so boring now, and I hate waiting, waiting, . . .waiting. . . for hands in NL. Where else can you play 3 tables and play over 25% of your hands on each?

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Because I like feeling like I just got kicked in the balls.