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RockPile 04-15-2005 11:49 PM

i think i suck...
 
almost 10k hands at PP. I was making slightly more $$ playing .05/.10 @ 7BB/100 after 10k hands.

Heres a chart of the .50/1.00 bankroll. Notice the crazy upswing at the beginning.. This is where I was running at like 10BB/100 for the first 2k hands.. I wish it kept going. All downhill after that.

http://www3.telus.net/diabolic/chart.JPG

Hows the agression?
http://www3.telus.net/diabolic/agression.JPG

Then the stats..
http://www3.telus.net/diabolic/level.JPG

Does anything stick out to anyone? I feel I may be calling down too much and this is really hurting my roll... I dont know..

Dead 04-15-2005 11:56 PM

Re: i think i suck...
 
I think that you are running badly.

milesdyson 04-15-2005 11:58 PM

Re: i think i suck...
 
I am in the red after 18k hands at Party, and I'm pretty sure I can beat it for ~3 BB/100, but so be the days of my life.

grjr 04-16-2005 12:30 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
What is your BB Won/Hand from the blinds?

MrWookie47 04-16-2005 12:31 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
There's been a movement here of getting higher VPIP and PFR numbers. However, you should still be able to be in the black with those. You're probably just running badly. After 18k hands, the uncertainty in your win rate is ~1 BB/100. If you're concerned about your postflop play, take Grunch's challenge.

Francis 04-16-2005 12:31 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
I"m pretty much a noob, only started playing in October.

The first 15K hands I was at -.4BB at .5/1. The next 5K I was even, and my last 10K hands are about 3.5BB/100...

I don't think I'm playing terribly differently now at 30k hands than at 10K hands. Your stats look OK to me. I think you're probably running a bit bad...

Although there's a fine line between being positive and negitive. A few big hands lost instead of won over 2k or 3k hands can be the difference between being -.5BB or +2BB over 5 or 10K hands.

Post some HH's if you want detailed feedback on specific hands.

I find reading this forum and thinking about the comments has really helped my game.

Regards,
Francis

jaxUp 04-16-2005 12:31 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
You're not even a losing player dude!! Your stats all look acceptable. Aim for a bit higher PFR. Other than that, just respond to lots of hands. Things will turn around.

RockPile 04-16-2005 01:06 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
[ QUOTE ]
What is your BB Won/Hand from the blinds?

[/ QUOTE ]

BB (0.27)
SB (0.15)

both in the red.. hmm.. not defending enough or playing too much from the SB?

MrWookie47 04-16-2005 01:09 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
Everyone loses money from the blinds. I'm not an expert on this stat, but if you're losing less than the blind amount for each seat, that's pretty decent.

SoftcoreRevolt 04-16-2005 01:14 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
You are just running badly, with those stats you should not be winning so little at .5/1. While your PFR could be a bit higher, it is still acceptable, your VPIP is a bit low for .5/1... but it's still fine... very weird.

This is a long shot, but maybe you should take a quick look at your table selection? The only other things I could see being wrong are maybe not opening up your limping hands in late position, or maybe not open raising enough...

I should trade you some of my BB/100 after 21K hands it is at 7.02 BB/100.

(Yes, I should be moving up, Long boring story why I can't quite move up limits yet, involves arenas, doggy trailers, crappy Suburus and why I hate Jersey.)

grjr 04-16-2005 01:33 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What is your BB Won/Hand from the blinds?

[/ QUOTE ]

BB (0.27)
SB (0.15)

both in the red.. hmm.. not defending enough or playing too much from the SB?

[/ QUOTE ]

Mine is

BB (0.05)
SB (0.07)
After 17,000 hands but I'm pretty sure those numbers are unusual.

I was planning to do a post on blind play in the next
couple of days to get everyone's thoughts on it.

I feel most people are losing TOO much money in the blinds
and it's hurting their bottom line.

Shillx 04-16-2005 01:51 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
However, you should still be able to be in the black with those.

I ran black with a VPIP much lower then his in the $5 game (like 11-12%). Something like 18% probably is a bit too low, but certainly in the right zone. I do agree about the PFR not being in the proper range.

Rockpile - Judging by the TT hand that you just posted, it seems like a lot of your issues come after the flop (what a suprise). Your aggression numbers look good from what I can see though so maybe you will need to dig deeper into PT to see what is going wrong. Maybe FPS (too much check/raising)? Folding on flops that you should be calling on?

Brad

RockPile 04-16-2005 02:01 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
[ QUOTE ]

Rockpile - Judging by the TT hand that you just posted, it seems like a lot of your issues come after the flop (what a suprise). Your aggression numbers look good from what I can see though so maybe you will need to dig deeper into PT to see what is going wrong. Maybe FPS (too much check/raising)? Folding on flops that you should be calling on?

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, I know I have the pre-flop down pretty good. My 18% comes from playing the SSHE tight starting hands, taking into account postion as well. The only way I can see to get that higher would be to start calling more low suited connectors from early postion.. I dont think thats a good idea generally though.

My post-flop needs work. Man, I've been playing for a year and half already.. I feel so behind some of these other kids that shoot through the limits.

SteveL91 04-16-2005 03:10 AM

Re: i think i suck...
 
I'm not sure what nick you used on pokerstars, but if it's what I think it was, I only have about 30 hands on you; no where near enough to say anything truly valid, but it might give you someplace to start. I don't want to mention the nick, but if you want to PM me to confirm, that's fine.

I'm not even close to being an expert, so take all of this with a big grain of salt. Regardless, as far as I can tell, it looks like you sometimes pick the wrong spots to try bluffing; you pick spots to try pushing draws where you'd (I think) be better off just calling if you're going to pursue the draw; you seem to get married to overcards and draws that miss and call down with nothing. May have been a few things I missed, but I only looked through a handful of hands.

Again, please keep in mind that I'm not that good myself, but maybe this will give you a few things to look into.


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