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Bill Murphy 05-24-2005 04:36 PM

Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
He seems to have been "edging" towards playing one the last couple of years.... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Dynasty 05-24-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
Nope, unless I win some type of online freeroll tournament.

I had my heart broken a few weeks ago when I was chip leader with about 60 players left in a large tournament. Then, an all-in speciallist did his thing a couple positions of the button. I called him in the big blind with AJo for about 1/3 of my stack. He had A8s and hit a flush on the river. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...er/crybaby.gif

If I had won that hand, I would have had about a 50% chip lead on the 2nd place guy. As these things go sometimes, I couldn't make anything work afterwards and got knocked out without even cracking the Top 20.

Bill Murphy 05-24-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
AJo is an auto-muck under those circumstances.

Hope ya change your mind and take a shot at one of the smaller LHE events. K or two won't be missed orta yer monster 'roll. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Dynasty 05-24-2005 05:20 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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AJo is an auto-muck under those circumstances.

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No chance. He had pushed in with some seriously cheesy stuff like K6s. Even before the action got to him, I thought "If he pushes, I'm calling".

drewjustdrew 05-25-2005 12:24 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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AJo is an auto-muck under those circumstances.

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No chance. He had pushed in with some seriously cheesy stuff like K6s. Even before the action got to him, I thought "If he pushes, I'm calling".

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Wrong forum, but I agree with Bill:

You are chip leader
Move in specialist has apparently decent stack (if not, then I agree with call)
No need to risk chips to large overbet, even if fairly sure you have the best hand at the time.
Aren't you even worse off if he has K6? Two live cards as opposed to one.
Seems to me that you have position on this guy and he may do it again when you have a "real" hand.

Nick B. 05-25-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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AJo is an auto-muck under those circumstances.

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No chance. He had pushed in with some seriously cheesy stuff like K6s. Even before the action got to him, I thought "If he pushes, I'm calling".

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I would have called too.

Bill Murphy 05-25-2005 08:28 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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AJo is an auto-muck under those circumstances.


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No chance. He had pushed in with some seriously cheesy stuff like K6s. Even before the action got to him, I thought "If he pushes, I'm calling".

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I should've added a qualifier like this. After seeing the K6 push, yes, I likely call too w/AJo, for all the reasons MLG listed in the 73o thread.

Mikey 05-26-2005 07:59 AM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
The only hands I would call his all in with is AA and maybe KK.

I know you probably felt you had the best hand here, but even still you can't afford to put yourself on the line with a 35% chance of being destroyed meaning AJ vs two random cards.
Thats a bet you really don't want to take at that point.

Paluka 05-26-2005 08:11 AM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
Dynasty the fact that people are telling you to fold here should make it pretty clear that you should play in the WSOP. Anyone who passes up clear +EV when it is only 1/3 of their stack is insane. This is one of the strengths of having a big stack- you can afford to play all your +EV situations because you don't have to risk busting. There are 60 people left in this tourney, you aren't going to win by only playing aces and kings. You still have to accumulate chips.

pokeraz 05-26-2005 10:33 AM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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The only hands I would call his all in with is AA and maybe KK.

I know you probably felt you had the best hand here, but even still you can't afford to put yourself on the line with a 35% chance of being destroyed meaning AJ vs two random cards.
Thats a bet you really don't want to take at that point.

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You want him to fold when he clearly feels he has the best hand for 1/3 of his stack?

Please.

Dynasty 05-26-2005 01:39 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
Mikey,

Even after losing this hand, I was still in the Top 10-15 in chips.

Mike Gallo 05-26-2005 03:50 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
AJo is an auto-call under those circumstances.

I corrected your post.

drewjustdrew 05-27-2005 10:21 AM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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AJo is an auto-call under those circumstances.

I corrected your post.

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I'm still kinda mixed on it. Before I was folding, but considering the stack sizes (I thought it crippled him), I think it is a close decision. It is still probably a huge overbet (blind sizes weren't mentioned) and a definite gamble in a risk/reward sense. I wouldn't make it "auto" anything.

djack 05-29-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
In what world is this a close decision?

Moreover, you've just had some of the best posters on these fora tell you that it's an easy call. Learn from them.

MicroBob 05-29-2005 07:53 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
I agree that if just one hand like this can break your heart that you should not play in the WSOP.

Chip-leader with 60 players left does NOT a guaranteed finish in the top 20 make.


You took a bad-beat...I don't see what the big deal is.

I can't understand why one would shy away from tournaments forever just because they played well and it didn't work out.

Piers 05-29-2005 09:14 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
You need to play a lot more tournaments to help desensitise yourself.

Dynasty 05-29-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
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I agree that if just one hand like this can break your heart that you should not play in the WSOP.

Chip-leader with 60 players left does NOT a guaranteed finish in the top 20 make.


You took a bad-beat...I don't see what the big deal is.

I can't understand why one would shy away from tournaments forever just because they played well and it didn't work out.

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I was using a little hyperbole with the "broken heart" stuff. Don't read too much into it.

I think only the 1st place (or maybe top 2) places paid out in this tournament. For anybody still on the fence about calling with AJo, that should push you onto the call side.

Mark Heide 05-30-2005 01:21 AM

Re: Will Dynasty Play A WSOP Event This Time?
 
Bill,

I hope all you guys and girls play this year. But, do me a favor and knock out Fossilman, Sklansky, and Harrington before they have a chance to get to my table.

One last thing, I noticed you look a lot different than your picture here.

Mark


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