Who the best and worst tippers?? (For Dealers, but anyone is welcome
 

I've been working at BAllys Poker room for 3 weeks and I've come to my personal observation of who are the best and worst tippers...

1) Young Asian Males (By far the best; Doesn't matter what the pot is..they'll throw 3 or 4 bucks at a time)
2) Mid/Older Males
3) Women
4) Young White Males (By far are the worst, expecially if it's NL)

Thoughts??

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Who smell the worst?

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You probably won't get to experience this at Bally's. But, tipping gets worse the higher in limits you deal.

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OK.

I don't want to start a flamewar or anything here (honest!), but I have to ask.

Tipping a waitress is often argued as correct "to insure promptness" or "to insure prompt service" or whatever.

But a dealer??

What's he going to do - give you better cards if you tip him? Or is it going to be like some kind of socially-acceptable extortion where he is more likely to "accidentally" scoop your hand into the muck if you're a bad/non-tipper (sort of like how some people say you should tip waiters/waitresses "or else they'll piss in your food" or something along those lines).

The only reasons I can see why people tip dealers are therefore a) not to look cheap in front of the other players (social pressure); and/or b) empathy or pity (arising out of a concern because they realize that dealers rely heavily on tips, in which case that makes for a very interesting contrast - the cold-hearted poker player who'd bust his own grandmother if she got into a pot with him, yet feels compelled to toss a piece of each pot he wins to someone who agreed to work for X an hour on his own volition with the understanding that tips may or may not come).

Any thoughts on this?

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Any thoughts on this?

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You're cheap?

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Any thoughts on this?

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You're cheap?

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Actually, I've never played in a B&M cardroom, so I've never even been given the opportunity to tip a dealer before.

Also, while you are of course free to post whatever you want, I politely requested for thoughts on this topic, not braindead comments that you were apparently too lazy to provide evidence or argument for or even to construct a banal joke around. Thanks for playing anyway, though.

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Hi balt999:

Your post is the sort of thing that has always irritated me about many cardrooms and the attitudes that many cardroom employees have. Instead of trying to figure out who tips the most and who tips the least, you should be concentrating on what you need to do to maximize your tips. You should discover that the better you do your job, regardless of of who might be in your game, the more you will make in tip money.

best wishes,
Mason

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Ok, so what you're saying is you're irritated by posts or discussions that are about any aspect of a dealer's experience other than the dealers maximizing their own profits? Even on the NVG forum of 2+2?

Are dealers allowed to post or think about baseball? What about Hold'em strategy? Naked women? Or should all their time be solely devoted to maximizing their tips?

He may be able to make more by spending his time trying to become more efficient and a more tip-worthy dealer than he would by doing other things (where "other things" includes posting on 2+2 for the purpose of personal enjoyment) but I think your being "irritated" by the post is unreasonable.

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I think when dealers deal they should concentrate on dealing. It seems like some of them want to concentrate on anything but dealing, and then they complain, and sometimes quite loudly, about how bad the players treat them.

MM

Re: Who the best and worst tippers?? (For Dealers, but anyone is welco
 

It's simply the accepted practice. Tipping waitresses may have started as something done To Insure Prompt Service, but it is no longer the case.

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Mason is right.

A new cardroom just opened here. An older guy, probably in his 60s, named Chip is working there as a dealer. Turns out, he dealt in Vegas years and years ago.

He rakes in more tips than anybody else because he keeps the game going in a professional manner and because he's able to carry on a conversation while doing so.

He and I have a standing agreement that he'll tell stories from the old days in Vegas at $1 per. He was telling a few one night and nobody else was taking care of him. So he started whispering the stories to me when I folded. It was pissing off a few of the other players. But Chip just smiled and said "This gentleman is the only one paying to hear the stories. If you'll follow his lead, you'll all get to hear what he's hearing."

Obviously, new dealers won't have those experiences to help build tips. But you can learn from watching the older guys.

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He rakes in more tips than anybody else because he keeps the game going in a professional manner and because he's able to carry on a conversation while doing so.

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No no no!!! says Mason. Imagine how much more he'd make in tips if he wasn't carrying on a conversation!

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Well, it should be noted that he adjusts his game to the table. When he's at the 5/10 NL table, he scales it back and only speaks when needed. The story-telling usually happens at the 4/8 tables.

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I agree. I much prefer to have the dealer paying attention to the game at hand.

Best wishes,
mason

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Also, while you are of course free to post whatever you want, I politely requested for thoughts on this topic, not braindead comments that you were apparently too lazy to provide evidence or argument for or even to construct a banal joke around. Thanks for playing anyway, though.

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Well, there have been about 4 xillion threads on this topic. Every single one of them has a bunch of cheapskates trying to justify their stiffing the dealers. Search if you want to read their "thoughts" on the matter, otherwise get flamed.

My personal opinion: if you don't want to tip, then that's fine, don't tip, but STFU, we don't want to hear convoluted justifications of how you think tipping is bad or how you think dealer quality would magically remain constant if everyone suddenly quit tipping.

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Mason,

As much as I respect your opinion I have to disagree...At the lower limits (Which are Bally's main games), 98 percent of the people are NOT going to tip based on how a dealer runs a game...

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FWIW, Tips does not stand for To insure prompt service or anything like that.

Would you like to know more?

http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.htm

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Well, there have been about 4 xillion threads on this topic. Every single one of them has a bunch of cheapskates trying to justify their stiffing the dealers. Search if you want to read their "thoughts" on the matter, otherwise get flamed.

My personal opinion: if you don't want to tip, then that's fine, don't tip, but STFU, we don't want to hear convoluted justifications of how you think tipping is bad or how you think dealer quality would magically remain constant if everyone suddenly quit tipping.

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That's funny, I recall having said that I've never even been in a position to tip or not tip a dealer, and wasn't arguing against the practice per se, merely asking for the reasons behind it.

And thanks for telling me to "STFU" when, if you want to look at the question from the point of view of someone who actually wants to learn something about the world, you'll realize that the burden of proof is on the person who is pro-tipping, not con. And bonus points for then saying that *my* viewpoint is the convoluted one.

Perhaps someone may be against tipping on principle because he thinks the casino/cardroom should pay their dealers a better wage so as not to require such a relatively awkward practice?

As far as dealer quality goes, let's just run through a quick common-sense kindergarten economics cram session: Assume everybody in every card room stops tipping instantaneously. What happens? Dealers either a) complain to their boss, or b) quit. The boss does nothing until the situation affects his current or potential business negatively (as would any other businessman). If people were to somehow continue not tipping, the boss would either pay the dealers more (and increase the rake proportionately), or in some other way "require" a gratuity (which is the exact same thing as increasing the rake proportionately). The quality of dealers will not go down to intolerable levels because (again, getting back to simple fingerpaint-and-graham-crackers economics) if they were, players would stop playing at that location, the cardroom would lose business, and they'd take measures to get the quality back up (paying the dealers more for extra training, probably) to get the players back. But hey, common sense is so convoluted - "everybody else is doing it" is much more logical. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But no, my lot is to STFU because you don't want to hear it, but your opinion comprised of literally nothing more than appeals to popularity and ad hominems is perfectly fine - after all, where else are we to find the fuel with which I am to be "flamed"?

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I've been working at BAllys Poker room for 3 weeks and I've come to my personal observation of who are the best and worst tippers...

1) Young Asian Males (By far the best; Doesn't matter what the pot is..they'll throw 3 or 4 bucks at a time)
2) Mid/Older Males
3) Women
4) Young White Males (By far are the worst, expecially if it's NL)

Thoughts??

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I played yesterday with this very young asian girl who tipped at least 7$ in everypot. The best was when she won a pot that was probably about 30$ and then pushed half of it back to the dealer! Everyone kinda laughed to themselves and looked at this girl strange(she was cute too!). It got even funnier when this funny guy in his mid-20s won another pot that was about 30$ and jopkingly pushed half of it to the dealer. Then everyone started hurting their lungs from laughing too hard. The girl only flashed the table a smirk and went back to reading her book. Very strange...

I think people in low limit games tip waaay too much though. I think you should tip 1$ for average size pots and 2$ for big pots. I see people tipping 5$ for pots that arent even 10BBs...

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I don't get all the talk about not tipping the dealers handsomely. Everyone knows that if you don't tip the dealers well, they won't give you good cards. I like getting good cards, so I can win more monster pots, and tip the dealers handsomely again. It more than pays for itself when you think about it from a logical perspective...

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A perpetual profit machine! Hell yes. My nominee for Post of the Day, and, if I had any say in the matter, a Nobel Prize to boot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hi Balt:

I agree that at low limit games which are more tourist oriented, my strict requirements need not apply.

best wishes,
mason

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An older guy, probably in his 60s, named Chip is working there...

He rakes in more tips than anybody else...

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LOL

(Sorry, inside joke. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!)

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A new cardroom just opened here. An older guy, probably in his 60s, named Chip is working there as a dealer. Turns out, he dealt in Vegas years and years ago.

He rakes in more tips than anybody else because he keeps the game going in a professional manner and because he's able to carry on a conversation while doing so.

He and I have a standing agreement that he'll tell stories from the old days in Vegas at $1 per. He was telling a few one night and nobody else was taking care of him. So he started whispering the stories to me when I folded. It was pissing off a few of the other players. But Chip just smiled and said "This gentleman is the only one paying to hear the stories. If you'll follow his lead, you'll all get to hear what he's hearing."

Obviously, new dealers won't have those experiences to help build tips. But you can learn from watching the older guys.

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If I was playing and saw/heard this I woud never tip this dealer. If I was supervising this dealer I would have to have a conversation with him about what is appropiate in the box. THe dealer should not be telling stories, he should not be whispering to a player, and he should not suggest that the players aren't tipping enough.

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And thanks for telling me to "STFU"

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Actualy, the "you" in that part of the post was supposed to be the people who try to argue that tipping is bad.

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when, if you want to look at the question from the point of view of someone who actually wants to learn something about the world, you'll realize that the burden of proof is on the person who is pro-tipping, not con. And bonus points for then saying that *my* viewpoint is the convoluted one.

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OK, fine. The onus is on me. You should tip because you're using the services of the dealer and tipping is how they get paid for their services. That's the fact of the matter. Now if you want to argue that this situation should be changed, the onus is on YOU to provide the justification.

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As far as dealer quality goes, let's just run through a quick common-sense kindergarten economics cram session:

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No, let's not. Like I said, this EXACT thread has already been posted, over and over and over again. Go search and read the old posts.

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But no, my lot is to STFU because you don't want to hear it

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Actually, I don't want to hear it, and I wasn't telling YOU to STFU then, but I am now. STFU. We've heard it. And if you go back and READ the old posts, you'd probably be surprised at my position on the "economics" of the situation.

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The onus is on me. You should tip because you're using the services of the dealer and tipping is how they get paid for their services. That's the fact of the matter.

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If you don't tip a dealer, the dealer does not stop dealing you cards. If you do not pay for food in a restaurant (which is how the restaurant gets paid for its services), then you get arrested and the restaurant most certainly stops serving you food. If you can't see the difference between these two scenarios, then I really don't know what to say - I guess you'll just have to rely on clever internet chatroom acronyms to be the crux of your arguments from now on.

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The only reasons I can see why people tip dealers are therefore a) not to look cheap in front of the other players (social pressure); and/or b) empathy or pity (arising out of a concern because they realize that dealers rely heavily on tips, in which case that makes for a very interesting contrast - the cold-hearted poker player who'd bust his own grandmother if she got into a pot with him, yet feels compelled to toss a piece of each pot he wins to someone who agreed to work for X an hour on his own volition with the understanding that tips may or may not come).

Any thoughts on this?

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It's a tipping profession.

Why do you tip the bartender who gives you a PBR but not the cashier at the Dunkin Donuts who gives you your coffee?

Why do you tip the pizza delivery guy, but not the cable TV repairman?

The cardroom pays the dealer minimum wage, and the implicit understanding is that players' tips will bring the total compensation up to a respectable hourly wage.

Personally, I'd rather see the rake raised to $5/pot, give the dealers a good base pay, and eliminate dealer tipping. But as long as they're getting minimum wage, I toss a $1 on every pot I win.

I think it's a good question though, and one that should be able to be asked and discussed with idiots chiming in with "you're a cheapskate".

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I don't have a problem with occaisonal talking in the box as long as it doesn't interfere with their dealing.

A quiet, efficient competent dealer is almost exactly as valuble as a dealer with the same level of comptency that talks a bit much.

A dealer that, by talking lowers the quality of the job they are doing? very vrey very minus EV.

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Mason, as a dealer myself, I would appreciate it greatly if I could "average" $1 per hand dealt. If that were the case, I'd make 38-45/hr for the 5.5 or 6 hours I deal. I feel that I run a good game even though it is mostly 4/8 and below and restricted buy in NL.

After talking with some friends at Wynn and other higher end joints, it seems that the lower end players are your more gambling type of tourist that are used to Bj dealers and so on having to talk up their game to make money. I used to do that for a living and can definately recognize the difference. Daily, I hear people complain that the dealers are too quiet and yada yada. But when I'll play 8/16 or 10/20 (never played higher), the game is much better off with a quieter dealer. I'm not saying carry on a conversation about your kids and such but a little good luck, or how is everyone, and maybe answer some questions and such and make the players feel like you're one of them works more to my advantage than anything. But I do know when to just STFU, dummy up and deal! lol

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I think it's a good question though, and one that should be able to be asked and discussed with idiots chiming in with "you're a cheapskate".


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THANK YOU.

I looked at the other "to tip or not to tip" threads in the B&M forum, and they were all exactly like that - one person would put up an argument against the practice (sometimes well thought-out, sometimes braindead [like the people who don't want to tip but want their prices to stay the same too]), and the overwhelming responses were "douchebag", followed by "cheapskate" and "stiff" (in that order [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]). I don't care which side of the fence you fall on, but you can't even discuss the issue in that kind of environment, which is the thing that got to me.

My working hypothesis, though, is that the knee-jerk "just tip and STFU, douchebag" people do such things for the same reason that kids in high school promote the notion that you're only a Real Man if it takes you a lot of beer to get drunk. Meaning, when pressed on the issue, they almost never offer up a rational argument, but instead resort to ganging up with their like-minded friends and just shout you down via some kind of perverted Majority Rule. I can't understand it for the life of me, to be perfectly honest.

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I looked at the other "to tip or not to tip" threads in the B&M forum, and they were all exactly like that - one person would put up an argument against the practice (sometimes well thought-out, sometimes braindead [like the people who don't want to tip but want their prices to stay the same too]), and the overwhelming responses were "douchebag", followed by "cheapskate" and "stiff" (in that order [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]). I don't care which side of the fence you fall on, but you can't even discuss the issue in that kind of environment, which is the thing that got to me.


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How about the respondants who explained in plain English why one should tip? Or did you get too bored and tired on your trek to actually read the threads you allegedly found?

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How about the respondants who explained in plain English why one should tip? Or did you get too bored and tired on your trek to actually read the threads you allegedly found?

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Here you go - just for you, the Greatest Hits from this thread

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IMO, if you don't tip, you are a loser, in more ways than one!

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I guess I'm one of those who will brand you cheap.

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Cause it is expected.

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Shut up & tip, thats my attitude. Why bother thinking about it, it will only give you a headache. Happy dealers = better "workplace". Its the cost of doing business, a per-pot addition to the vig. Fair enough eh?

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The real difference is that those who do tip are players and those who do not tip are royal douchebags. Other than that, there's no reason to do it.

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Stupid freaking stiffs man. You're spreading like a virus.
You funny little $2/4 ESPN & WPT wannabes. You guys kill me.

Heres the profile:
Male
21
White
Trendy
Loud
Drunk
Cheap

Always asking for the cocktail waitress and wearing sunglasses. And now coming to 2+2 to bitch about tokes.

Heres a tip. Go play [censored] video poker. Dont have to tip a soul.

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That was a particularly choice one, I must say. Followed immediately by this non-sequitur

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If your hourly rate is being decimated by tips, I suggest you learn how to play poker.

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So, what you're saying is that rather than being the young, wet behind the ears no-nothing kid he accused you of being, you're a doucebag entirely without excuse?

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Just friggin' tip already and don't add up how much is costs you. Consider it a necessary part of the game. Tipping is completely separate from the rake anyway, so don't lump them in the same category.

The bottom line is don't be a friggin' stiff, that's "bad."

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If you aren't willing to do that,stay home until you grow up.

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All you're going to do is deprive a dealer of some income and come off as an excuse-free douchebag.

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Your profile of the non-tipping internet punks is spot on accurate.

Every single day I have to say it over and over...

IT'S 2-4, NOT THE WORLD POKER TOUR!

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So if you have to defend yourself after posting a "I think I'll try to rationalize being a stiff" thread, then too friggin' bad for you hoss. Somebody call a whaaaaaaambulance!

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The fact that you make such a big friggen deal about probably less than 1% of your earning just proves my point that you are one of those beligerant tightwads who have had the life sucked out them by the game....

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I admit, this one is my favorite - I figure, if you're going to go ad hominem, at least go there in style:

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I hope you almost die in a fire.

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Ok, a couple things here to point out stiff.

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If you

* don't care about treating people as you would like to be treated
* have no conscience
* don't mind being thought of as an a-hole

then don't tip if you don't want to.

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The following quote was particularly deliciously ironic seeing as how a sentence or two before it, the person claimed to be an "academic kind of person" who dutifully weighed all evidence before taking a stance:

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Just give it up, don't be a friggin' stiff, and TIP ALREADY.

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After all, no one knows more about the plight of people working for $2/hour plus tips than someone who buys and sells restaurants like they were tennis shoes.

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It's a good thing you're only claiming to be a poker genius.

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Having read every post and absorbed the available information, I have come to the conclusion that you're the [censored], here.

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Moral of the story: YOU ARE A CLOWN

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What a douche.

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If you hate dealers, tipping, 35 hands per hour, do us all a favor and go back to the internet. Simple as that. Enough of the whining and complaining, just do it. We wont miss you.

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If you are trying to make money playing poker move up to a limit where the rake and tokes are not such a high percentage of the pot or stop bitching...

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So toke good service, and don't if bad, if you're a total stiffinator.

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i cannot believe this is a topic of discussion. if you do not like tipping, stick to online play. this reminds me of the beginning speech by Steve Buschemi in Reservoir Dogs. Just tip 'em!

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Wow.

Positively brimming with rational argument and scholarly debate!

*edit: by my calculations, the posts from which I quoted here comprised 61% of the 'pro-tipping' (or anti-'no-tipping', I guess) opinions. And that's just the stuff that was obviously asinine! I'm of course not saying that there were no rational arguments (there were a few, on both sides) - what I am saying is that the signal-to-noise ratio in a thread like that is within epsilon of zero.

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Thoughts??

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You should become a hot looking female if you want really good tips.

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Very good post Jordan.

Don't expect a good debate with dealers who just want you to tip regardless of how well they're doing its job.

David

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OK.

I don't want to start a flamewar or anything here (honest!), but I have to ask.

Tipping a waitress is often argued as correct "to insure promptness" or "to insure prompt service" or whatever.

But a dealer??

What's he going to do - give you better cards if you tip him? Or is it going to be like some kind of socially-acceptable extortion where he is more likely to "accidentally" scoop your hand into the muck if you're a bad/non-tipper (sort of like how some people say you should tip waiters/waitresses "or else they'll piss in your food" or something along those lines).

The only reasons I can see why people tip dealers are therefore a) not to look cheap in front of the other players (social pressure); and/or b) empathy or pity (arising out of a concern because they realize that dealers rely heavily on tips, in which case that makes for a very interesting contrast - the cold-hearted poker player who'd bust his own grandmother if she got into a pot with him, yet feels compelled to toss a piece of each pot he wins to someone who agreed to work for X an hour on his own volition with the understanding that tips may or may not come).

Any thoughts on this?

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tip the dealer for the same reason you tip the waitress

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tip the dealer for the same reason you tip the waitress

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Well if you tip because SHE's hot and you have a guy dealing to you, that could be construed as something... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I prefer a table full of asians. Tip city.

The young white males, all wpt trained (thanks to the wpt never showing tipping) and internet trained should all be banned from cardrooms till they learn how to tip.

Women are fine with me.

Older men do tip some but they usually bitch more than the tips they give are worth.

al

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Here you go - just for you, the Greatest Hits from this thread

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Did you hurt yourself hand-picking the douchebag posts while ignoring the ones with actual points?

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should all be banned from the cardrooms till they learn how to tip

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This easily the stupidest thing I've read today. Getting tipped is not a fuckign birthright. You do not automatically deserve to get part of my pot.

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OK.

I don't want to start a flamewar or anything here (honest!), but I have to ask.

Tipping a waitress is often argued as correct "to insure promptness" or "to insure prompt service" or whatever.

But a dealer??


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If you want "to insure prompt service" I suggest tipping the dealers. They don't have to deliver a fast game if they don't want to.


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