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GrannyMae 02-22-2005 03:56 PM

american idol *lock*
 
the last singer standing will have a penis. bet your baby's college fund.

therefore, the play of the week is this:

after eliminations wednesday, purchase two contracts each of all remaining male contestants EXCEPT mario (this purchase should be well under $100).

then, buy 10 contracts of anthony federov. these will probably be dumped before the end, but you should be able to get him for under 5.

finally, if you want to make some money and don't mind having it locked up, short mario. he can't win

future market url
http://wsex.com/market/AMERIDOL-2005.html

contestants url
http://idolonfox.com/contestants/



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mae out

B00T 02-22-2005 05:14 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
After reading Astro's post I thought of this guy. When he got the ticket to Hollywood I said to my gf "mark my words, this guy is goin to win"

Just echoing the thought of Anthony Federov.

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 05:18 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
American Idol lock is selling Anwar Robinson short.

He has no chance.

rJ

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 05:24 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Vazquea has gone from 16-20 to 21-25
Michayla Gordon from 1-3 to 3-5


I could now sell and end this years idol on a profit.

rJ

astroglide 02-22-2005 05:48 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
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finally, if you want to make some money and don't mind having it locked up, short mario. he can't win

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wrong

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 05:52 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
finally, if you want to make some money and don't mind having it locked up, short mario. he can't win

[/ QUOTE ]

wrong

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I am with Astroglide on this one.

rJ

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 05:57 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
here's the poop.

the entire vaginal field can be scratched (there is a joke in there but i am too tired)

mario can be scratched.

so, you scratch the chalk pick (mario) and are left with the dangling, remaining penises after elimination.

the cost of this 9 man field will likely be approx $40. it is a $100, 1pay. if you invest all your idol wad on that field you would be guaranteed a return of 60 points as long as a non-mario male is the weiner (it will be)

as the top 10 approach, you would dump some of these 9 that have no shot at advancing but are overpriced and either be on a freeroll or roll it into the inevitable winner.

the winner will be apparent in 3 weeks, but this is the only week that there is a betting play like this available.

of course, if you are a tone-deaf canadian it really is a waste to think this deeply. you just have to take my word on it.

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lorinda 02-22-2005 06:01 PM

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No frills bet.

Male winner 8/11 (That's, er -137.5) at Paddy Power.

I know nothing about the show, just thought the bet might save everyone a lot of messing about [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Lori

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:02 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
finally, if you want to make some money and don't mind having it locked up, short mario. he can't win

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wrong

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i will sell you up to 5 contracts @ $22 each, but they have to be held to the very end.

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:05 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
[ QUOTE ]


Male winner 8/11

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ok, i no understand. 8/11 is the bid and ask? what does it pay?

edit: that mean i lay 137.5 to win 100? what is the url lori?

lorinda 02-22-2005 06:06 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
8/11 is a straight bet.

Bet 11, make 8 profit (return 19).

You can bet on a female winner at even money.

Lori

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:11 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
finally, if you want to make some money and don't mind having it locked up, short mario. he can't win

[/ QUOTE ]

wrong

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i will sell you up to 5 contracts @ $22 each, but they have to be held to the very end.

[/ QUOTE ]


I bought him at $20 yesterday.

rJ

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:11 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
gotcha

found the website. i *really* like that bet. do we know if this place is reputable?

ty ty

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:14 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
I bought him at $20 yesterday

so you can make $1 if you dump now?

selllllllllllllllllllllllll

kidding of course. he will have some upward movement perhaps but can't win so they are worthless for long term. you may be able to ride it up 10 or 20 points tho. hold it until top 10. NO longer imo

lorinda 02-22-2005 06:14 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
As far as I know they are fine, however I don't know the rules on Americans there (A lot of our stuff has strict quarantine now).

Lori

astroglide 02-22-2005 06:16 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
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i will sell you up to 5 contracts @ $22 each, but they have to be held to the very end

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i'm already in starting at 20

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:20 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Finally something in the IG worth discussing again.

Tone deaf Canadian. I know you're not talking about me. Is astroglide Canadian?

rJ

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:21 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
i will sell you up to 5 contracts @ $22 each, but they have to be held to the very end

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i'm already in starting at 20

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i understand that. they are $25 now tho. i was letting you load up on the cheap.

ok, don't come whining when they cost you $40 and you are still buying

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rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:23 PM

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ok, don't come whining when they cost you $40 and you are still buying

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Tell the truth here. Can you say you havent bought some Marios already just with the plan to sell early when he does go up by 10 points?

rJ

astroglide 02-22-2005 06:25 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
you're failing to point out why mario can be scratched. if it's a guaranteed male win, who are you saying CAN actually win it? the only possibles i can see are mario, david, anwar, travis, and nikko. of those, i don't think any of them are nuking (or even beating) mario in talent/star quality.

david lacks experience, anwar is too old/cheesy, travis has ego/humor that should be off-putting to most of the audience, and nikko needs a personality/style transplant. in terms of winnability, i don't see a weakness in mario. his range isn't exceptional but he can punch what he has and his looks/charisma/stage presence are peerless in the competition. and i even hate that hat thing and the fact that usher is tied with jt for his favorite male pop star.

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:28 PM

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2.5 hours after your post Fedorov is up to 5-7 from his original 3-5.

Can this all be zoo buys?

rJ

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:32 PM

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As far as I know they are fine, however I don't know the rules on Americans there (A lot of our stuff has strict quarantine now).

Lori

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<font color="green"> Response (Marie Hogan) 22/02/2005 10:24 PM
Dear Granny,

Thank you for your mail.

Unfortunately, due to the gambling laws in the US, we cannot accept any bets from customers registering from the United States using a credit/debit card from an American bank.

We sincerely apologise for this inconvenience.

However, any customer who has an Irish/UK address with a card registered to a UK or Irish bank can continue betting with us.
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rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:33 PM

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2.5 hours after your post Fedorov is up to 5-7 from his original 3-5.

Can this all be zoo buys?

rJ

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5 minutes later Federov is up to 7-9.

Everyone ive bought has gone up except Constantine.I knew he wouldn't after last night, but he will move before hes finished.

So far ive got some Vazquez, Federov, Constantine, and Michayla Gordon

rJ

jerome baker 02-22-2005 06:34 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
try 7-9

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:36 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Tell the truth here. Can you say you havent bought some Marios already just with the plan to sell early when he does go up by 10 points?

wayyy too early to manipulate my fellow zoo members
(though i did buy my blondie boy contracts before posting)

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i don't know yet who will win, i just know who won't. that list has mario on it.

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:38 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
who are you saying CAN actually win it?

i have it down to 5 possible. 2 of them tanked last night.

no names yet

astroglide 02-22-2005 06:39 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
completely ruling out the clear favorite at this stage of the game is simply dumb

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:39 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
AMANDA AVILA 7 10
DAVID BROWN 7 10
ANTHONY FEDEROV 7 9
CARRIE UNDERWOOD 7 9

I dont understand what makes the spread differrent in a futures market. Why a 2 point vs a 3 point buy/sell difference when they have the same sell?

rJ

GrannyMae 02-22-2005 06:41 PM

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try 7-9

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oops.

you see this B00T?

now you would only get 9 for $100, not 20. maybe wait till thurs.

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:44 PM

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[ QUOTE ]


So far ive got some Vazquez, Federov, Constantine, and Michayla Gordon

rJ

[/ QUOTE ]

Constantine just went up.

I could now sell every single one of my people individually without a loss.

Tone deaf Canadian? Please.

rJ


p.s. 1 day in...gloating while i can.

B00T 02-22-2005 06:46 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Yea I see it, I dont give a rat's ass. If anything I will just dump some more into it.

I dont get impulses like this normally, when I do, I run with it. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

astroglide 02-22-2005 06:48 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
i've got

anthony
constantine
lindsey
bo
nikko
nadia
travis
mikalah
carrie
mario

i think anwar, vonzell, amanda, and david are overpriced for right now but i guess we'll find out soon enough. i'm expecting a raise on carrie after tonight's episode, possibly the others because the bottom end will be finally appparent to all.

BaronVonCP 02-22-2005 06:52 PM

what does \'short\' mean?
 
Sorry, i'm stupid.

rusty JEDI 02-22-2005 06:56 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Only 4 girls in the top 12 right now. There has to be some short term moving in here considering they sing tonight.

Any tips?

rJ

astroglide 02-22-2005 07:01 PM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
carrie should improve on talent, lindsey could go up on talent, mikalah and nadia should coast for a while on image alone.

rusty JEDI 02-23-2005 12:22 AM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
Seems like what happened is earlier today there were a lot of people that rose up in value with only 1 dropping and that was by 2 points.

After tonights show the market corrected and almost everyone dropped. Federov went from an early 2-4 to 9-11 after a granny endorsement, and now back to 6-8. All that with him not singing a second time.

rJ

astroglide 02-23-2005 02:20 AM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
...and my 20 contracts on carrie at 8.3 (partial 8, partial 9) go up to 21. haven't watched the show yet. looks like mikalah botched it though. nadia didn't, and vonzell is back to reality. carrie's the only other one i ramped up on today though, most of them i just got 5. shitload of mario though.

rusty JEDI 02-23-2005 02:29 AM

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...and my 20 contracts on carrie at 8.3 (partial 8, partial 9) go up to 21. haven't watched the show yet. looks like mikalah botched it though. nadia didn't, and vonzell is back to reality. carrie's the only other one i ramped up on today though, most of them i just got 5. shitload of mario though.

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Carrie was the best "singer" with Vonzell a very close second. Nadia was the best performer.

Voice wise Mikahla was very Cate Blanchett playing Catherine Hepburn in Aviator. Almost Fran Dresherish. Her exuding confidence also turned very annoying. Im sure she can still show value before the end, but will not go as deep as i originally proposed.

After watching tonight i think granny is over playing the boys. The final 6 will likely be 50/50 boys to girls.

rJ

mike3076 02-23-2005 02:46 AM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
6881 posts ?
do you even have time to play poker?
or do you work here?
respond ASAP-ty.

astroglide 02-23-2005 02:55 AM

Re: american idol *lock*
 
i think the male "field" is strong, but when you get down to specifics there are no "that's a winner..." types other than mario. i think the girls have more room for growth. my biggest concern with mario is that he will "fail to improve" because he's close to the top of his game already and it will impact the votes. i'm not planning on holding ALL my contracts on him (low 3 digits) until close but i expect to ride him past 60. if he doesn't get top 3 something is seriously wrong.


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