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bawcerelli 11-04-2005 03:45 AM

limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
you guys limp this? is my fold too tight?

i usually fold this in ep because a risk of a raise. as it turned out, someone had AA but chose to limp.


Seat 1: gentleman55 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: KingRat (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: BubbaKGB (3640 in chips)
Seat 5: LeftLV (1365 in chips)
Seat 6: steve q (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: pillows5 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Poket Genies (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: JTF10 (1260 in chips)
Poket Genies: posts small blind 15
JTF10: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gentleman55 [Ac Tc]
gentleman55: folds
KingRat: calls 30
BubbaKGB: folds
LeftLV: folds
steve q: folds
pillows5: folds
Poket Genies: folds
JTF10: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 8h 7c]
KingRat said, "flop was scary"
JTF10: bets 330
KingRat: raises 330 to 660
JTF10: raises 330 to 990
KingRat: raises 400 to 1390 and is all-in
JTF10: calls 240 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c 8h 7c] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [9c 8h 7c 5c] [Kd]
BubbaKGB said, "he either had low pockets or was slowbetting his AK"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JTF10: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
KingRat: shows [Td 9d] (a pair of Nines)
JTF10 collected 2535 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2535 | Rake 0
Board [9c 8h 7c 5c Kd]
Seat 1: gentleman55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: KingRat showed [Td 9d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: BubbaKGB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LeftLV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: steve q folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pillows5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Poket Genies (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JTF10 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (2535) with a pair of Aces

11-04-2005 04:06 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Easiest fold I ever make.
Also, by showing us the outcome you make us result oriented as well.

bawcerelli 11-04-2005 04:28 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
do you limp this in mp or lp? i like to limp ATs - AQs ( in early levels - in late levels i'm pushing) to hit either the nut flush or nut straight draw (or a combo of both).

HesseJam 11-04-2005 05:24 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Early rounds:

ATs: I fold in EP, might limp in MP if I think the table is more on the pf-passive side or might steal. LP, I mostly put in a standard raise and tend to fold on a standard re-raise pf.

AJs: I start stealing earlier (late MP).

AQs: I hate limping AQs at most levels. AQ is a value raise hand for me. First in I put in a standard 3-5 BB raise. After 1-2 limpers, I tend to play the same. I understand that the forum here is split on this issue. I occasionally limp with AQs at late levels if the situation is right to trigger all-ins.

tigerite 11-04-2005 05:55 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Fold and stop being results oriented!

11-04-2005 09:30 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
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do you limp this in mp or lp? i like to limp ATs - AQs ( in early levels - in late levels i'm pushing) to hit either the nut flush or nut straight draw (or a combo of both).

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With a deep enough stack, I'll limp this from later positions sometimes, but I fold it a good bit, too. You need some money in the pot and a passive table to make it worth it, IMO. It's a good fold here.

Also, I doubt your guy limps his AA with two limpers in front of him, so you'd most likely end up folding this to his pre-flop raise, anyway. Then again, he was willing to make multiple raises on a flop where he ought to only be seeing JT (and so was his idiot opponent).

durron597 11-04-2005 10:02 AM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
FWIW if the table is playing passively I limp this. I wouldn't in level 2 on party though.

11-04-2005 12:19 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
I fold this so fast.

Results oriented is bad also.

durron597 11-04-2005 12:22 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
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FWIW if the table is playing passively I limp this. I wouldn't in level 2 on party though.

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By the way, I fold ATo, and call A9s too. Again, only on passive tables on stars.

tigerite 11-04-2005 12:25 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Yes but we all know you're a LAG at heart [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

pooh74 11-04-2005 12:29 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Good fold...I would limp ATs from mp and fold ATo unless in CO+1 or better. A9s I would fold EP everytime...I'd rather play 9Ts from there.

Cactus Jack 11-04-2005 12:38 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
Limp, fold to the raise, and don't look at the board.

You can afford to limp once or twice in early rounds on PS.

housenuts 11-04-2005 02:03 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
this is a stars turbo. i limp here. what is 20 chips out of 1500 as opposed to a party sng where you only start with 800 chips

durron597 11-04-2005 02:34 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
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this is a stars turbo. i limp here. what is 20 chips out of 1500 as opposed to a party sng where you only start with 800 chips

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It's actually 30, but yeah.

housenuts 11-04-2005 05:26 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

durron597 11-04-2005 05:37 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
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ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

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If he makes it 90 then I think about how multiway the pot will be, 4 players I call.

pooh74 11-04-2005 05:42 PM

Re: limp or results oriented? stars 25 turbo
 
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ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

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4 players I call.

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yeah, 60 more with 3 besides me is fine.


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