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12-27-2005 02:46 AM

How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
Assuming you play fairly tight on full ring tables, how many FPP at the lower limits?

Can you guys also show the math? For example: 1 table * 50 hands /hr * table * 5 hands raked = 5 FPP / hr / table

I just want to see how many hours I need to put in to get that porsche. :-)

moose47 12-27-2005 02:56 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
Well, I have an extremely small sample size as today was the first time I played full ring at Stars but here is what I did today at .5/1

744 hands
113 FPPs (actually 226 since they were doubled)
I also was getting 60 hands per table hour

60 hands per hour per table * 0.15 raked = 9 FPPs /hr/table

I played 5 tables so that would be 45 FPPs / hr

Only 9.5 years away from that Porsche!

12-27-2005 03:04 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
How did you calculate 9.5 years?

If i made 10FPP/hr/table, played 10 tables and 10 hours a day. That would be 1000FPP / day. Playing every day of the year, it woudl take ~8 years to hit the 3 million FPP required for the porsche

jmillerdls 12-27-2005 03:09 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
wouldn't you be making significantly more than that once you hit supernova?

12-27-2005 03:11 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
yeah, you have to consider the FPP multipliers for the different VIP levels. I played about 6 hours today, 2/4 and 3/6, 6 tabling, and earned 2,000 FPP with the 2x multiplier.

MicroBob 12-27-2005 07:37 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
can you 10-table on Stars??
I thought the max was 5 but maybe they changed this.


Also - trying to earn FPP's on .5/1 tables isn't going to happen very quickly. Just lookng at the structure and how large the pot has to be to be raked for an FPP.

12-27-2005 08:45 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
hey bob, i was going to ask you, do you play at higher limits now or are you a big multitabler?

1p0kerb0y 12-27-2005 10:18 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
I thought that Pokerstars had extended the total # of tables one could play when Party extended theirs, and I thought it was more than 5. However, it is listed as 5 on the bonuswhores webpage.

Last I heard, at the $1/2 level about 1/3 of the hands were receiving a FPP. This would be about 20 FPPs per table-hour. But this number is going to be different at different levels.

So assuming 20 FPPs per table-hour x 5 tables would be 100FPPs per hour on average.

Of course, as you move up in levels the FPPs accumulate more rapidly.

SILVER = 1.5x (1500FPPs in a month to reach this level)
GOLD = 2x (4000FPPs in a month to reach this level)
PLATINUM = 2.5x (10000FPPs in a month to reach this level)

So in order to maintain PLATINUM status at the $1/2 level you need to be logging 40 hours per month. Not the hardest thing in the world to do.

I just wish we could do more tables at a time on Stars. Can anybody confirm that is is just five? Is it five ring and then we can do tournaments too? Or five total? Maybe if we collectively nag we can get this number increased.

Also, in another thread I suggested that those who are looking for a cash option for the FPPs simply get an entry to one of the Sunday guaranteed tournaments and unregister for the tournament. Then sell the T$ you will receive in the multi-table tournament forum, where they will go quick at 90%. I, however, plan on possibly playing a WSOP event and/or cashing out some T$ to use in SNGs.

1p0kerb0y 12-27-2005 10:20 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
BTW Microbob, good to see you in GREEN! This site is in need of moderators who have the integrity and fairness that you you will offer.

O Doyle Rules 12-27-2005 10:24 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
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I just wish we could do more tables at a time on Stars. Can anybody confirm that is is just five? Is it five ring and then we can do tournaments too? Or five total? Maybe if we collectively nag we can get this number increased.


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Ii is my understanding that you can 8-table On PokerStars.

I haven't tried it, maybe I wll tonight.

Timer 12-27-2005 10:33 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
I was playing 8 tables on Stars this morning. It's difficult to do without the cascade feature and MTH.

At four to five tables I cleared about 60 FPPs per hour playing $100 nl/6. The 50nl/6 clears even slower. So that's about 30 FPPs per hour normally. That comes to about 20 hours to clear a $120 bonus or $6 an hour. LOL.

How many VIP points would that be?

1p0kerb0y 12-27-2005 10:42 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
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Ii is my understanding that you can 8-table On PokerStars.



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I was under the same understanding.

You know what this whole VIP program reminds me of? When you did your TruePoker challenge to earn a seat at the WSOP main event. Now that option is available to everybody! So in a way, I think you helped shape what has now become the Stars VIP program.

And the same for Microbob, who has constantly suggested that sites should lean towards doing this. Kudos to both of you guys, and to Lee Jones of course for making it all happen.

I know I'm ready to give all of my playing time to Stars. Between the weekly freerolls, the low rake, the new FPP items, the decent to good games, and the great tournaments, Stars has IMO made itself the best place to play poker on the internet. This should really put the pressure on Party to shape their VIP program in a similar manner, which will benefit us as players.

Sciolist 12-27-2005 11:03 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
You can 8 table ring games, and there's no limit on tournament tables.

1p0kerb0y 12-27-2005 11:04 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
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At four to five tables I cleared about 60 FPPs per hour playing $100 nl/6.

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Accumulating FPPs at the no-limit tables seems quite difficult. You get 1 FPP for each pot that is raked $1. The pot needs to be at least $20 for this to happen. You might be better off switching games and/or possible shooting Pokerstars an e-mail because it does seem a bit off balance.

12-27-2005 11:47 AM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
So at Platinum status, you'd be looking at approximately 250 FPP/hour?

12,000 hours to the Porsche (250 hours/month for 4 years).

Would really suck if someone ground their way close to 3mil playing $1/2 and then they changed the rewards available.

O Doyle Rules 12-27-2005 12:06 PM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
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Ii is my understanding that you can 8-table On PokerStars.



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I was under the same understanding.

You know what this whole VIP program reminds me of? When you did your TruePoker challenge to earn a seat at the WSOP main event. Now that option is available to everybody! So in a way, I think you helped shape what has now become the Stars VIP program.

And the same for Microbob, who has constantly suggested that sites should lean towards doing this. Kudos to both of you guys, and to Lee Jones of course for making it all happen.

I know I'm ready to give all of my playing time to Stars. Between the weekly freerolls, the low rake, the new FPP items, the decent to good games, and the great tournaments, Stars has IMO made itself the best place to play poker on the internet. This should really put the pressure on Party to shape their VIP program in a similar manner, which will benefit us as players.

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Thanks, 1p0kerb0y.

I appreciate that.

You have started a thread which could be very informative for players at all different limits.

Crunching some numbers from my $3/$6 SH play, I now am averaging .60 FPP per dealt hand over several thousand hands.

.60 FPP x 75 hands per hour = 45 FPPs per hour per table

45 x 4 tables = 180 FPPs per hour

45 x 6 tables = 270 FPPs per hour

45 x 8 tables = 360 FPPs per hour

It takes a special person to 8 table the SH game and I don't think I am the man to do it. (At least profitably)

However given the above assumptions:

If you 4 table, you hit Platinum in 55.5 hours of play, 13.875 hours per week. SuperNova will take 555.55 hours of play, assuming one plays 25 hours a week you would be there in 22 weeks.

If you 6 table, Platinum in 37 hours, 9.25 hours a week. SuperNova in 370 hours, if one plays 20 hours a week (cutting it down due to greater difficulty of more tables)you would hit SuperNova in approximately 18 weeks.

If you 8 table, Platinum in less than 28 hours, 7 hours a week. SuperNova in 278 hours, assuming 20 hours of play a week you would hit SuperNova in 14 weeks.

Anybody else like to crunch some numbers at your limit?

I would like to see them.

Thanks.

(Yea and for that Porsche if you 8-table the $3/$6 SH:

3,000,000 divided by 360 FPP/per/hour = 8,333 hours, assuming if you played 30 hours per week, it would take you about 5.34 years to get there, 40 hours per week, right at 4 years.)

Actually, I take this all back it would be much shorter. I failed to calculate in FPPs accrueing 3.5 times faster once you hit SuperNova. SO, back to my original assumption of 20 hours of play a week if you 8-table, you would hit SuperNova in 14 weeks, which means for the rest of the year you would be accumulating FPPs at 1,260 per hour? This would mean you would accumualte over 1 million FPPs in less than one year, so a porsche would be yours in about 2 1/2 years playing 20 hours a week 8 tabling the $3/$6 SH.

Shew, hope this is close to right.

Timer 12-27-2005 12:15 PM

Re: How much FPP per hour on poker stars
 
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At four to five tables I cleared about 60 FPPs per hour playing $100 nl/6.

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Accumulating FPPs at the no-limit tables seems quite difficult. You get 1 FPP for each pot that is raked $1. The pot needs to be at least $20 for this to happen. You might be better off switching games and/or possible shooting Pokerstars an e-mail because it does seem a bit off balance.

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E-mailing Stars doesn't do any good. I don't think they care about the no-limit situation anyway. I rarely play limit poker online, so after the double ponts promotion expires at the end of the year it's back to Party or Battlefield, or whoever has the best deal(rakeback-bonuses)/interface/software, etc.

[Party by far has the best deal for no-limit players.]


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