Poker Stars $200 Rebuy Hand
 

About 61/2 hours in, blinds 800/1600 75 ante.

Folds to cutoff(with about t50,000), very active player
t soprano raises it to 8,000, folds to me in the Big Blind holding Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I have t38,000 left.

Your thoughts on calling, raise, or push?

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Push .. no reason to be scared of AA or KK.. and any other raise commits you.

Could probably try and extract more money out of him by just calling but i'd probably play it safe and not have to start wheeping when the flop comes AKT.

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any other raise commits you.

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Yeah, what he said. Also, in my experience most opponents (but not all) wouldn't have raised to 5BB in the CO with AA or KK, he would've wanted you to play with him some.

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Push

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any other raise commits you.

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Yeah, what he said. Also, in my experience most opponents (but not all) wouldn't have raised to 5BB in the CO with AA or KK, he would've wanted you to play with him some.

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He is very aggro and a very good player. Could he raise this much once in awhile just to mix it up?

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He is very aggro and a very good player. Could he raise this much once in awhile just to mix it up?

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sure he could, but he still most likely doesnt have AA or KK.. like you said raising that much would be 'mixing it up' so usually he wont (obviously).

Only two hands that beat you, Aggressive player raising from perfect stealing position... I'm all-in.

(sucks that he had AA/KK/AK+suckout)

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He is very aggro and a very good player. Could he raise this much once in awhile just to mix it up?

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sure he could, but he still most likely doesnt have AA or KK.. like you said raising that much would be 'mixing it up' so usually he wont (obviously).

Only two hands that beat you, Aggressive player raising from perfect stealing position... I'm all-in.

(sucks that he had AA/KK/AK+suckout)

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Ding, Ding, Ding. I did push and he did have AK, caught the Ace and I had a nice dinner. I was just curious if it is just that easy to push or if it would ever be right to call and play on from any non Ace or King Flop?

Re: Poker Stars $200 Rebuy Hand
 

nah, you want the money in PF there.. you'll fold the best hand too often after an A comes and he has something like JJ

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Why push and scare out what is probably a worse hand held by a player who is almost automatic to bet?

I like a flat call, and go from there.

Yes I know that an A or K on the flop would suck, but I want to win some chips here, especially from 99-JJ on a ragged flop.

Regards,
Woodguy

Re: Poker Stars $200 Rebuy Hand
 

99-JJ is probably going to call your push.. as it looks like a resteal and he'd be getting 1.7:1 odds..

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i agree that a flat call is best, but it's not cause i want to extract from 99-JJ. i want to extract another bet from 57o or whatever junk he holds that he'd fold to your push. i think you're letting him off the hook too easy by pushing pre-flop. call and plan on getting the chips in on any flop.

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when you call his 5x Bb raise you think he'll try a continuation bet w/ a hand liek 57? or will he check behind unless he catches a peice of it.

he might think you're trapping him..

Re: Poker Stars $200 Rebuy Hand
 

I would certainly push this. His raise screams I don't want action OR I am giving myself odds to call an all in. With AA or KK this raise by him doesn't make sense and you said he had AK which fits.

His raise of 8,000 makes the pot 10,000+ which is more than one forth of your stack! I'd try to take it down immediately and be hoping for a call. There's no way hes laying down jacks there.

AK vs. QQ is a very common tournament hand. I've been on both sides before and wether I won or lost, I usually thought I've made the right decision.