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MicroBob 12-19-2005 09:26 AM

My losing streak wins!!
 
At the risk of immense ridicule I'm posting some of the details of my now 1000BB+ losing string (yup...I said 1-freaking-thousand)!!!

Disclaimer: I'm not even pretending that I'm playing a winning game anymore although I really don't think my game is THAT god-awful. But obviously this goes far beyond what most would consider the regular bounds for a winning player's 'variance'.

Time to step away for a little while perhaps?? I suspect so (yet again).


Most of the recommendations are kind of obvious of course:
-- play fewer tables and focus
-- take a break and don't play for a few days
-- read, read, read (in strategy forums and SSHE, etc)
-- play full tables and just play weak-tight fit-or-fold poker to lessen the swings (which I've been doing...but the losing continues on and on and on)
-- don't get crazy over blind battles


Actually, I've been doing well in the occasional satellites and other tourneys I've been playing. So I might be off to low buy-in SNG's for awhile to rebuild bankroll and confidence (which is totally in the toilet now of course).

Maybe I'll just throw in 1 table of lowish-limit 6-max on the side while playing a couple tourneys. It's a thought.


Anyway - here are my fun-filled stats for your amusement (should make you all feel better about your own 'downswings'):


Today: another -60BB's in 1600 hands

Party since Nov 15:
33k hands, -1.31BB/100 at 5/10 and 3/6.
-439BB's total

UB since Dec 6:
33k hands, 1.88BB/100 at 3/6 and 2/4
-623BB's total


Yup - I've dropped 1071 BB's in the past month.
Impressive?? I sure think so.

It's been mostly just 30-40 or so BB's per day. Fun!!


It's difficult to seperate out the 6-max stats from the full-table stats at UB...so I'll just give some of my party 6-max stats (stats should generally be the same).

VP - 23
PFR - 18
FSB - 84
FBB - 68
WtSD - 35
W$SD - 51
W$WSF - 40

except for the low W$SD these numbers look pretty reasonable to me.


Ag-F - 3.0
Ag-T - 2.4
Ag-R - 1.8
Ag-total - 2.5


I'm raising much less these days trying to passivefy my play and keep myself tied to fewer pots:

By position (VP/PFR/WtSD/W$SD/BB/100):
UTG - 20/19/44/59/0.07
MP - 21/20/44/56/0.13
CO - 23/20/35/53/0.06
B - 24/20/40/56/0.09
SB - 24/20/39/55/(0.05)
BB - 20/9/26/46/(0.30)



My BB play looks glaringly bad obviously.
I know I've run into a lot of rivered 2-pairs after flopping top pair....or just whiffing with 98 on board of over-cards and stuff like that...but obviously I'm pretty in the wrong here still.


Breaking down the past few days of my losing streak:
12/19, -60
12/18, -17
12/17, -65 (3.9BB/100)
12/16, -29 (actually won $14, won at 3/6 and lost at 2/4)
12/15, -37
12/14, -92
12/13, -5 (actually won $100 though)
12/12, -47
12/11, +27
12/10, -138
12/09, +24
12/08, -102
12/07, -42
12/06, -55


And so on and so on and so on.

pecto 12-19-2005 10:08 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I can really feel your pain. I play at those levels too and i'm on a 26k hands break even stretch. And I've been through a -300 bb.

Trying to relearn the gme is not a bad idea. I'm starting to think that the 23-25/ 15-18 no longer works as good as it did before in this games. I'm starting to induce more bluffs and check and call a lot more, because there are less people now that pay off with crap and people are more agressive now. Probably nowadays 5/10 is very similar to the old 10/20 from 1 year ago and I've never beaten that game for a big rate. Keep thinking about poker and you'll find the way to keep winning

pokergrader 12-19-2005 10:15 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Aggression is too high. Try to get the total aggression to around 2. Don't force your opponents to fold worse hands and raise you with better ones. Check/calling your way to money is not only +EV against aggressive opponents but it is really fun to do.

Everything else looks pretty standard, but I would try to defend your blind a little more often.

Just FYI--

If I were to sit at a table and see a 23/17/2.5, I would not be particularly worried. The people that really scare me are the 27/20/2.0 people.

air 12-19-2005 10:20 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I agree with playing more hands. I'm about 31/19 at Party 5/10. I think if you find loose passive tables you can play a lot more hands.

adsman 12-19-2005 10:22 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Holy $hit.

MicroBob 12-19-2005 10:28 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Check/calling your way to money is not only +EV against aggressive opponents but it is really fun to do.

[/ QUOTE ]


Yeah...I've been bringing my aggression down of late.
I agree that I could check-call more...and also perhaps not push quite as much with winners (I'm always freaking driving my opponents out).

MicroBob 12-19-2005 10:32 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Holy $hit.

[/ QUOTE ]


Thank you.
this is the kind of reaction I was looking for.
I aim to please.

Keep 'em coming gang!!



The non-poker folk in my life know of my losing streak as well but don't know diddly about poker (and, evidently, neither do I really).

So I eas explaining to my Dad via e-mail (for example) that even a 500-600 bet losing string is considered to be HUGE and some would even consider that to be bigger than anything a winning player should experience.

And I have somehow doubled that.

I also drove the point home by mentioning that I think it might be a 2+2 record.


I don't believe I had ever had a downswing of greater than 250BB's at 6-max prior to this wonderful month of non-stop losing.


Happy Holidays Everyone!!

POKhER 12-19-2005 10:33 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
From your last post, what striked me is your lack of reads? I don't know how long you played the session for but i saw hardly any information besides stats?



Do you feel like you're playing through a downswing and just grinding through hands in the hope it magically ends and your "standard game" will return you to a "upswing"?

Are you playing more than one table?
Are you playing scared? In the JJ hand you didn't bet but called down on a the ACE hitting vs a maniac. Not sure of the best line to take vs him but it came across as a weak.

I really think you need to turn your PC off for 2days, go do whatever you do? Ive no idea how old(Or young [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) you are and you're status but either go out and have a laugh or spend more time with the wife or mow the lawn [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img](hehe).

Dont go near poker, this will be good for your mind and also keeps your bankroll even.

I think running this bad for this long is as you said... Killing if not killed your confidance.

Running yourself dry wheter your playing well or not(I really doubt your playing your same game after this) is something you want to avoid.

So get up off your chair, turn off your pc... and GET AWAY FROM POKER!

Return in two days to play a lower level for half an hour, then start re-reading a book.

The first pages of SSH were read by me last night, dam they're pretty "Comforting" in the sense about +EV and ED millers sucess etc.

Good luck mate, i'd offer to help but i reckon any of my advice or chat is worthless as you probably chat to higher stakes players and i'm a relative newbie anyhow.

adsman 12-19-2005 10:41 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I'm sorry, I just didn't know what else to say. To be honest, your run scares the feck out of me.

MicroBob 12-19-2005 11:05 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
No need to be sorry!!
My reaction would be the same.

It probably shouldn't scare you THAT much either.


If you are truly a winning player I don't think it should be possible to do what I have accomplished. It takes a true talent (such as myself) to drop over 1000 BB's.

As pokher pointed out, I posted a hand in the SHUSH forum that I played pretty gosh-darned passively. I know I'm misplaying other hands too.

A good player getting the exact same cards as me would certainly not have lost nearly as much as I have. Perhaps (probably??) would have been profitable in fact.

At least I have some RB to keep me going.


Also - I am partly accepting pokher's ideas about staying away. I was planning on doing various errands today as well as spending some time with the GF who is not working today.


Other options for the future will include playing more "for fun" in low buy-in SNG's or satellites (where I've been doing quite well actually...over $1k on Pokerstars from the past week or so).

I might consider playing total idiot poker too:
This would include multi-tabling full-ring at something like 12/6 perhaps with even more of a fit-or-fold style or something like that. I do believe this would still be good enough to win at Party 2/4 and 3/6 actually.

Or I might play some Miller NL short-stack strategy (from his book Getting Started in Holdem) which I would categorize as another form of 'idiot poker'.


I need confidence of course.
but I also need some money and to that end 'fixing' my game immediately isn't my top priority anymore.

I really don't care how dumb I have to play or how long in order to grind out some dollars.
It might sound like torture for some to play THAT boring a style of poker (miller short-stack NL...or super weak-tight low-limit)....but playing in ANY fashion that results in some wins would be a really fun time for me these days.


I actually was playing some .25/.50 full-ring on a different site today on 3 tables (just getting in enough hands for a weekly freeroll tournament).
I dropped 30BB's over there too. my QJ on board of J9425 would always run into 54 and other such catastrophes.


Anyway...I forgot to include those 30BB's in the down-swing...but I had some winning stretches on a couple of those sites too so it probably balances out.

AllIn3High 12-19-2005 11:14 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Hi Microbob, sorry to hear about you downswing. I experienced something similiar (at NL):

here

I don't know what works for you, but I switched to a different game (6-max limit) and started from scratch, relearing the nuances of the game and gaining confidence. You could probably do something similar at $25NL, if you have even a basic understanding of the game you can beat it. Your opponents are poor and you risk very little. If you're unconfortable playing with a full stack (which is understandable at first), just buy-in for 50BB and get all-in w/ overpairs, TPTK, sets and better. And stay at the table and play with your new big stack.

Good luck.

adsman 12-19-2005 11:17 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
How about this;

Take the rest of the week off. Don't post any of your own hands. Just reply to as many hands that are posted with your thoughts and see how your advice stands up. Sit down on Friday night alert and refreshed and start it up. Don't look at your stats or cashier box until Monday morning.

Thank god you've got rakeback.

Actually, come to think of it, whenever I'm running bad, (which I feel embarressed to say now after seeing your 1K effort), I go down to the 0.02/0.04 session and play complete maniac poker. bet and raise every damn hand. Put everyone else at the table on tilt. Get them screaming at me in the chatbox. I always feel great after that.

POKhER 12-19-2005 11:24 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
From you're post you sound like you've kind of disregaurded the money won or lost, i guess you play reasonably high stakes?

Do you depend on it as your income or is this just a hobby?

I seriously think you need to take 2 days off, one day isn't enough but 2days will be good.

Just dont play!!!!

If you really can't control the urge, then maybe read a book on poker but when i had a 100BB swing(yeah seems like pennys vs yours i know) but a downswing is a downswing; They affect confidance if its the worst you've experienced (which that was)! My mind litrally clouded up, it felt like i didnt know why i was raising AJs and i didn't know why im betting a flop when i hold Ace Jack High... my mind just clouded up and i felt lost.

I took a break, then i played lower limit game(.10/.20 i think lol) and winning a pot cleared my mind.

It was wierd, thats why i say i suck at the psychological side of the game interms of tilt/varience(ok im crap post flop but anyhow).

Infact it wasn't the cash i won($1 or 2), it was just the fact i could see i won 10BB's!

It takes will power though to leave your pc... specially if you love poker as i assume you must(Love and hate after this swing).

Maybe drop to 2/4 or 3/6 as you say and get back you're feel for the game without the worry of losing big cash.

If 2/4 still feels like a fair bit of cash, play 1/2 and try win 20BB's. Move up to 2/4....

After all, its better to play GOOD POKER at 2/4 than play weaktight poker at 5/10 because of the downswing you're experiencing right?

I think you just need to rebuild you're confidance, you're game will then adjust to your good TAG play(Where you bet JJ even if a ACE HITS vs a MANIAC).

Then re-read a book, be it SSH or TOP or WTO... Whichever. Do the quizzes to confirm you know you're playing well. All this will help with confidance(Although the quizzes are full ring i know)

I really think after regaining that confidance you're natural tendancies(The good TAG play you've played 1000's of hands with) will come together.

Good luck bob, keep us updated!

MicroBob 12-19-2005 11:32 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
"Don't post any of your own hands. Just reply to as many hands that are posted with your thoughts and see how your advice stands up."


Actually that's what I had been doing for the past couple of weeks.
I'm changing things up now by actually posting a few of my own hands.

Yours and allin3high's ideas are valid.
I don't think I'm going to stay away for a week though.

I might play total retard .02/.04 however which sounds kind of fun.

I remember doing that back in January on the designated .5/1 table when Bisonbison was playing his 24-hour marathon.
Several of us 2+2'ers there were capping every street.
I caught like crazy and won 180BB's in 110 hands or something ridiculous.
I had a really silly streak where I won 6 or 7 hands in a row (most of them on the river). Good times.


I already mentioned the possibility of heading to full-ring playing super weak-tight...or small stakes Miller NL short-stack system...or tourneys.
Whatever. Lots of possibilities.


My tourney game is +$1000 at Stars this past week thank goodness and I've had a few other good performances in there (11th place out of 240 in back to back weeks in the Party 15k-point tourney awarding a PPM cruise to 1st...among other solid performances).


amazingly I'm not nearly as down about this as you might think.
The worst that can happen is that I would actually have to go out and get a REAL job (GASP...the horrors!!!!).

my GF is still crazy about me...my cat is still cute...I still have my health....etc etc.

It's not the end of the world...No biggie.
I'm just a bad poker-player (these days), that's all.
I'd prefer to be a not-as-bad poker-player so I'm going to take steps to try to make that happen.

POKhER 12-19-2005 11:45 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Micro, have you been sweated by anyone?

I've read you're posts and "I'm just a bad poker-player (these days), that's all." made me laugh.

Varience man, and the psychological affect.

Drop down 2stakes, Read books after having the break.

You'll be back. You need a break, you need to regain confidance and have someone sweat you on your first few sessions i reckon.

MicroBob 12-19-2005 12:00 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Yeah...all worthwhile ideas as well.

I was playing occasional 10/20 6-max in Aug and Sept (and did pretty well...but then hit a little skid so stepped back).
Dropped down to 5/10. Then to 3/6. Then to 2/4.

Partly for bankroll preservation and partly for confidence rebuilding.

I guess I can just keep dropping levels until I finally start winning again!!



Even though it's stressful now I have every confidence that I will indeed be back.
And it will make quite the story of how this little sucky internet-player got his act together and went on to win some big tourney (or crush the 100/200 games or something like that).

augie00 12-19-2005 12:03 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
hey if it makes you feel better i suck too

MicroBob 12-19-2005 12:10 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Do you "1kBB" suck?

dankhank 12-19-2005 12:15 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
[ QUOTE ]

Ag-total - 2.5

I'm raising much less these days trying to passivefy my play and keep myself tied to fewer pots:


[/ QUOTE ]

just wanted to point out one key error in your thinking (imo), which is that the point of passive play in limit is to get yourself tied to more pots rather than less. for example, if you're considering either raising or calling on the turn in position: if you raise you give your opponent a chance to 3-bet and force you to fold before the showdown, where if you just call, the two bets that could've been used to raise him, will get you all the way to the end.

i can see where in a low limit full ring game 'passify my play' can mean getting tied to fewer pots in the sense of, "well i could either raise my top pair bad kicker on the flop in this five-way hand and commit majorly to it, or i could play passively so i can get away from the pot easy on the turn if i don't improve." however you said you are playing 6-max games where there is a lot of heads-up action, in which case i think passive play is equated with being in more pots rather than less, postflop.

you may be using the term 'passify' differently than this scenario, but when i run into what i consider large flaws in logical deduction re: limit holdem, in conjunction with a 1000bb downswing post, i wonder if some of the poster's fundamental theories are perhaps flawed. i don't play much shorthanded, but 2.5 aggresion seems a bit high given you haven't been holding many winners.

i think it would help to post hands and respond to hands on the forums, but sometimes particular lines aren't the problem. maybe you should be rethinking your overall gameplan while in the midst of playing, too. as your psychological state seems to be one of your strengths, it seems like your mind should be clear for this type of cerebral investigation.

MicroBob 12-19-2005 12:20 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
very nice post.

thanks.

12-19-2005 12:46 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
change your name.

Edit: err... your poker room name =P

Sponger15SB 12-19-2005 01:15 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
I agree with playing more hands.

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Count me in the people who totally disagree.

If I were MB I'd be wanting to play less hands right now. BTW, his OP was tl;dr so I dont know his stats anyways.

wowacedude 12-19-2005 02:31 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
i might we be way out here, but i someone one pointing out that you should play more hands, don't.
and in the 2/4 -> 5/10 i dont think those agg numbers are that bad, it's a kinda passive game and i think you should be a lot of value betting.

my 2 dollars.

i also agree that a break sounds like a good idea.

good luck.

12-19-2005 02:56 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Wow. That is frightening. And commendable also that you have managed to stick with it. I know that whenever I hit a big slide I find it progressively difficult, emotionally, to haul myself back to the computer and tell myself it is all going to be okay in the end if i just plug on through.

Regarding the stats you posted, the only thing that stands out is the big blind. At (.30) you are getting absolutely murdered, and although I haven't done the math, I would say that a big proportion of these losses could be attributed to just this fact. If blind play is not your strong point (and these steal/ defence situations are often difficult when you are running low on confidence as they tend to require the negotiation of marginal situations) you should also not play short for a while either, where they obviously come up with greater frequency.

Really hope it works out for you and you manage to pull out the other side.

climber 12-19-2005 02:58 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I realize this likely isn't what you are looking for in this thread and I'm not sure if strategy is allowed in BBV or not but here goes.

OK you recognize your BB is horrible--thats important.
Read some Peter_rus stuff (Nov 04- Mar 05 if I had to guess)to correct that and ditch the phrase "blind battle" from your vocab. If anything I think you are slightly too aggro postflop and the combination of not playing enough hands from the BB and thinking of each one as a "battle" is gonna just lead to major spewage as you have experienced.

"sometimes its tight/aggressive to check call"
--quote from the archives (Tommy Angelo maybe?)

However I think the big problem with your game lies in your position stats. I'm not gonna spell it out for you too much but here is a link with some stats of some very good players and if you look at the differences betwen your position stats (VP$IP and PFR) I think a lot of what you are doing wrong should be pretty apparent.

Best of luck.

12-19-2005 03:21 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Play 1c-2c with me on UB.

Sit in on the 5c-10c no max table with $500.

bobbyi 12-19-2005 03:35 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Sorry to hear about this, Bob. Here are a couple comments in response to your post and the others in the thread:

Playing more hands: I would not go nuts trying to play more hands. If you are not showing a profit playing the number of hands that you are, adding more marginal hands is almost never the answer. However, there probably are some spots where you are giving up a little bit too much right now by folding. In particular, your folded BB to steal % is quite high and in addition, you are getting killed in the BB with a -.3 BB/100. Your sample size isn't large enough here to be that confident in win rates from specific position, so this could just be poor luck, but combined with your high fBBts, it is very likely that you are leaving money on the table by giving up your blind so easily. There are a lot of hands that are proftiable getting better than 3:1 to look at a flop plus implieds against an opponent who could have almost anything. Accepting a .5 BB loss is often a substantial mistake.

Aggression Factor: I've always had a high AF (at least as high as yours), so I'm not going to join the bandwagon here saying you are too aggressive. If you had both a high AF and a low WtSD, I'd be worried that you give up too often, but that isn't the case, so you're probably okay here.

Switching games: I find this helpful when I need to reexamine by thinking and my game. It helps to shake things up and think about poker in a new setting and it provides a sort of mental reset that can help with the downswing mindset. Playing small stakes NL or SnG's is a nice idea. I wouldn't go with the short stack NL strategy unless you are very inexperienced at NL. If you have some experience with it, I would fire up a couple tables of $50NL and buy in for the max. (Note: bobbyi is a lifetime loser at online $50 NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]).

I would focus on games where you can make a consistent profit like NL and single-table SnGs. Playing MTTs with huge player pools is fun and there's nothing wrong with doing some of that on the side, but your plan for rebuilding should be to hope to win the lottery in a MTT and make everything right.

Playing less tables: Yes! Play less tables. You are making at least some bad decisions at the table, so you need to work on your poker thinking and reasoning. Playing a new game (above) can be helpful since it puts you in new situations that force you to really think rather than playing by habit (this is why I say not to remove most of the thinking from NL by doing the shorstack thing). Playing less tables at limit and focusing on each decision can do the same thing. That is hugely helpful both for improving your game and regaining your confidence. I think this is a much better idea that playing like a robot in smaller games. Dropping down in limits some may be good, but not so much that you are wasting your time and doing nothing to rebuild your confidence about playing in real games. Exactly where to pay is dependent on you and how you feel about various limits, but sticking to 2/4 for a while might be good.

If it's available to you, I would strongly recommend playing a few sessions live (maybe once a week for a while). That is the ultimate setting for being able to think about every decision and really get to know your oppponents and try to adjust to them. This can be really helpful for rebuilding your thinking about confidence. Find a soft lower limit game where the opponents are terrible and you find it fun to play.

[ QUOTE ]
play full tables and just play weak-tight fit-or-fold poker to lessen the swings (which I've been doing...but the losing continues on and on and on)
-- don't get crazy over blind battles


[/ QUOTE ]
This quote worries me a bit. The reason that people run into downswings worse than they should statistically is that once they run a little bit bad, they freak out and start chaging everything about their game that was right and completely forget how to play. Becoming "weak-tight" is not the answer. Critically analyzing every decision and trying to find what you are doing wrong is the only way. Play less tables and really focus. Don't give up your blinds more easily or start folding decent hands. Throwing away money isn't the way to deal with a downswing.

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It's difficult to seperate out the 6-max stats from the full-table stats at UB

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Use "database maintenance and options" in PT and pick 6-max sessions. You can label any session as being 6max. If you are playing on a site that automatically differentiate 6-max sessions in PT, each day after you are done playing, you should tag the session by hand so that you can accurate stats. Without having done this, you can get the stats you are looking for by filtering by # of players (of course, this will include shorthanded hands at 10-max tables, which you may or may not want).

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Post in strategy forums more:

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I've never been crazy about the phrase "strategy forums" since the majority of dicussion on most of them is tactics, but regardless, you definitely need to post more analysis and hands. It's a shame that this is only happening in reaction to a downswing. I have always wondered my one of the most level-headed and articulate posters spends so much time chatting in the zoo and so little making posts to try to improve his game. I think some of your current troubles could have been avoided if you focussed more time on being a strategy poster. I hope that whenever you start running good again, you don't take that to mean that you no longer need to worry about posting and responding to hands.

Escape 12-19-2005 06:01 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Posts: 13314 and still losing... damn sucks to be you.

NLfool 12-19-2005 06:09 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I've never played with microbob nor does he post in the forums/sections I visit (cept for the blackjack threads) but personality wise and the way he writes I can't see him being a LAG.

Seems more ABC straight forward type and this should work all the way up to 10/20. For an straight forward player to lose 1000BB is almost incomprehensible.


The only advice I would have is to play NL to decrease your bad beats and swings.

MicroBob 12-19-2005 06:24 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
" personality wise and the way he writes I can't see him being a LAG."


It's interesting that you say this but I think it's untrue.

My play can be VERY lag-gish at times....like hyper-aggressive type LAG.
iso-3 betting where the rest of the forum recommends just calling or folding...etc etc
Oh yeah, and I'm a calling station too.

These are things I have known about myself for a long time...but it was all okay then of course since I was winning. But I was never bashful about admitting my LAG-gish tendencies and it's not something I'm just saying now that I'm a super-sucky player.

These numbers are a bit more passive than before because I've been tightening up quite a bit.



climbers and bobbyi and others have given some very nice ideas too and I thank everyone for the thoughts.


I think climber's ideas may be correct...but it's hard to make oneself defend one's BB MORE when one is in a downswing.

bobbyi's thoughts are certainly valid...espeically, "I think some of your current troubles could have been avoided if you focussed more time on being a strategy poster."



Also - "Without having done this, you can get the stats you are looking for by filtering by # of players "



Unfortunately, there isn't a filter on the 'preferences' tab that effects all the areas of poker-tracker. Some of the stats like ag-factor don't seem to be able to be adjusted that way.
If someone can tell me a way to see one's ag-factor by filtering for number of players I'd be interested to know.



Thanks again all.

TimM 12-19-2005 06:58 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
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I think climber's ideas may be correct...but it's hard to make oneself defend one's BB MORE when one is in a downswing.

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I'm not sure I like the term "defending" one's blind. I think it ties people to the hand too much. I love opponents whose idea of defending blinds (or stealing them) is to spew at least 5 BBs with no pair and no draw. Yeah, that's a great way to try to save or win that 0.5 BB blind bet. Against these guys you can call pre-flop and then just toss your hand if you miss the flop. It feels weak but you won't win by playing back at them without the best hand, and when you do hit they pay off quite a bit.

Klepton 12-19-2005 07:40 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
this entire thread: tl;dr

bobbyi 12-19-2005 07:54 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
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MTTs with huge player pools is fun and there's nothing wrong with doing some of that on the side, but your plan for rebuilding should not be to hope to win the lottery in a MTT and make everything right.
...If you are playing on a site that does not automatically differentiate 6-max sessions in PT, each day after you are done playing, you should tag the session by hand

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FMP.

The Goober 12-19-2005 09:25 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
Not much to add, but you should try to get out and play live if you can. If nothing else, it'll help restore some confidence when you get a good look at your opponents and realize just how clueless they really are.

12-19-2005 10:29 PM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
did you ever play higher than 3/6 on a regular basis? or is
this small limit play just cause your losing?

MicroBob 12-20-2005 02:59 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
i've played up to 15/30 (live and online)...did quite well actually during my stay in Vegas in July.

I'm playing down to 2/4 and 3/6 because I've been losing.

MicroBob 12-20-2005 03:01 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
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this entire thread: tl;dr

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so don't read it.

flair1239 12-20-2005 03:12 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
I know we have not always had a pleasant correspondance... but I really feel bad for you. I have been through a downswing half as bad in July, and I realise the feeling of hopelessness that can develope.

I really think you should consider the less tables option. I dropped a single table down to 3 at the beginning of the month. I have noticed that I am able to play longer sessions and stay focused for longer periods of time.

Looking at your stats the thing I would say is that an aggression rate of three is very high on the flop. It would be my guess you are not getting the value you should from some of your good hands, and also not giving yourself enough oppurtunity to draw out.

bugstud 12-20-2005 03:21 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
hey bob, grab pokergrapher and show us the super-soiler graph plz thx

MicroBob 12-20-2005 03:26 AM

Re: My losing streak wins!!
 
You're a sick man.


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