Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
In THIS (10/20 aggressive) game against a very aggressive player what is your standard river line here? Seriously I feel like an idiot asking this question but I know the 10/20 plays way different especially sh'd. I have found that 10/20 4-handed or less is just plain wacko. I'm adjusting ok I think though and learning a LOT. Anyway...
Check and hope he bets/bluffs then raise? Bet weak and hope he raises/calls with weak holding? Bet big and feign a bluff? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter Hero ($2513) BB ($2715) UTG ($2348) Button ($1240) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $65</font>, BB calls $55. Flop: ($150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, BB calls $100. Turn: ($350) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $300</font>, BB calls $300. River: ($950) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero? |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
i vote 'check'
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
I vote bet 2/3 pot or more
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
i vote bet 400 and pray for a raise.
then do some hollywooding. |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
i think 600 is good if you believe that he would think you would bet w/o Ac or Kc here. look at stack sizes, he pushes as a bluff, or w/the Kc, you have to call 1500 into a 3000 pot on a 4-flush board. seems like it could give him some believable FE there
or perhaps 500 is better? |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
i dont see many people bluffing a river blocking bet here...
I like 600 as well |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
that should be 3500 pot, not 3000, dunno why the edit didnt catch it
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
I probaly bet 2/3, its a good bet as it can look like a bluff as well. There are a few players I would probably check to, or bet like 250-300 hoping to be raised like BLDwtERs (not sure I got the name right, but you know who I'm talking about). Normally I think you are losing value by checking as most people wont value only with the top 2 flushes and checkbehind anything with showdown value. He must have something to show down as he called both the first 2 streats so I think if there is anyhope of inducing a bluff it is by making a week looking bet, not checking.
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
Having played in a ton of these short handed games over the summer I think betting about the size of the pot is best. I can't tell you how many times I've potted the river on 4 flush boards either with the nuts or nothing at all and its amazing how many times I get called with just a mid club. So if it was me I would bet 950 or 1000, but this is assuming that your aggressiveness is at or above the norm for the table. If you don't bet I would rather check and try to induce a bluff.
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
Hero bets 450-1000 range, with focus at 600-800. Most likelly paid off by crappier flush (Kc), 2 pair, or set. Very agr. player even AK no club is possible. Straight chasing after the turn bet seems remote
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
I like betting 300-350 to give the impression of a blocking get. Given the fact that the game is short handed and the way the hand played out, you might very well get a raise by a thinking player who will try and push you off a blocking bet. At the very least you might get a little value call from a small flush.
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
I have always checked here.
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
In the hand I checked and he bet $325. Now how much?
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
Make it 1000...after long pause
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Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
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In the hand I checked and he bet $325. Now how much? [/ QUOTE ] I like a min-raise [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. I doubt you are getting anything more than this. |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
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In the hand I checked and he bet $325. Now how much? [/ QUOTE ] hes prob not calling anyways, but i like a push here. your best bet is to get him suspicious with a Kc or Tc. you'll very rarely get paid here though. btw, your line looks good up to this point. |
Re: Boring 10/20 Ac flush but what\'s your default river line?
I made it 900 and he called w/Kc 10c
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