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11-26-2005 02:27 AM

Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
I'm a Noob- so maybe I'm not worthy of being critical. But I gotta tell you- I wouldn't recommend it to any one- period!

11-26-2005 02:44 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?

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Yes.

Guthrie 11-26-2005 03:56 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Well, let's see. I deposit $100, get a $100 bonus, play blackjack for a couple of hours and cash out $195. Rinse, repeat. Yeah, it's a load of crap.

masse75 11-26-2005 05:06 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Well, let's see. I deposit $100, get a $100 bonus, play blackjack for a couple of hours and cash out $195. Rinse, repeat. Yeah, it's a load of crap.

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Or...I deposit $100, play poker for 3 weeks single-tabling, and walk away with $300 (not counting what I've won).

Yes, you are alone.

Photoc 11-26-2005 05:13 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I'm a Noob-

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You lost all credibility here. That happens to be the same spot where I stopped reading and replied.

gila 11-26-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I'm a Noob- so maybe I'm not worthy of being critical. But I gotta tell you- I wouldn't recommend it to any one- period!

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Well, whored about 40 casinos this year, up $4504.07. God this is crap.

GMan42 11-26-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Since everyone's flaming you, I'll go a bit easier on you.

It's not for everyone, there are a lot of pitfalls (rogue casinos, misleading T&C's, difficult cashouts, etc.), and you need to be informed and well-bankrolled to hit up a lot of the better sticky bonuses.

That being said, for the motivated player willing to put in the time and who has some reasonable risk tolerance, casino whoring can be a cash cow.

RikaKazak 11-26-2005 02:14 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Why???
What's wrong with making $100 a hour while sitting in your boxers???

Homer 11-26-2005 02:25 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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But I gotta tell you- I wouldn't recommend it to any one- period!

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Good call. Seriously.

jman220 11-26-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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But I gotta tell you- I wouldn't recommend it to any one- period!

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Good call. Seriously.

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nh.

11-26-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
I should have seen the flaming coming, but it's my initial impression. Not trying to knock anybodies windfall. Since it seems the overwhelming majority feels much differently- perhaps I should give it another try. I tried Planet Luck-and as you can guess I busted out. I adhered strictly to WOD guide. Flat betting $2 a hand. I thought it was VERY boring and it took quite a while. The no down load version wasn't working. So I had to download. The download versions all have the dealer hitting soft 17. So then I go to Starluck- and it's like DejaVu-Java doesn't work, and so many miracle 21's for the dealer. I realize there is variance, but it got old real quick. Plus- customer service was very poor. Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

playersare 11-26-2005 02:43 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
I guess then you also assume that dating women must be a load of crap too.

11-26-2005 08:07 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I guess then you also assume that dating women must be a load of crap too.

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What, isn't it?

timmah27 11-26-2005 08:23 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Even a trained monkey could make money casino whoring...I guess you haven't been trained yet. Seriously though, go to wizardofodds.com and print out a blackjack strategy sheet and play the hands. For Planetluck and Starluck I got $170 out of the potential $200 in bonuses and I felt like I ran exceptionally bad. Something tells me that you got pissed off and stopped following your chart because you were losing and/or raised your bets at some point. Follow the chart, bet $1/hand, and keep track of your money wagered so you don't wager more than the minimum and you'll make money.

That is all.

Homer 11-26-2005 08:33 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Even a trained monkey could make money casino whoring...I guess you haven't been trained yet. Seriously though, go to wizardofodds.com and print out a blackjack strategy sheet and play the hands. For Planetluck and Starluck I got $170 out of the potential $200 in bonuses and I felt like I ran exceptionally bad. Something tells me that you got pissed off and stopped following your chart because you were losing and/or raised your bets at some point. Follow the chart, bet $1/hand, and keep track of your money wagered so you don't wager more than the minimum and you'll make money.

That is all.

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No way, man. You're just more of a blackjack expert than the OP.

timmah27 11-26-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 


If by more of an expert you mean i can read and follow a chart then i guess i am more of an expert

DarkForceRising 11-27-2005 04:02 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Casino whoring (and poker bonus whoring) saved my variance stricken ass. I actually was five bucks from busting on the Planetluck deal, too. In spite of that (plus the $247 Shogun Casino [censored] me out of) I knocked down the easiest $2000 grand in my life in a few weeks. It would have been quicker if I wasn't so lazy. Now, if I could only muster up the courage for stickies...

Happy holidays Big Dave, Playersare, Homer, Thing, Burgundy and all the others who contribute to this forum.

MrBlueNose 11-27-2005 04:17 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I should have seen the flaming coming, but it's my initial impression. Not trying to knock anybodies windfall. Since it seems the overwhelming majority feels much differently- perhaps I should give it another try. I tried Planet Luck-and as you can guess I busted out. I adhered strictly to WOD guide. Flat betting $2 a hand. I thought it was VERY boring and it took quite a while. The no down load version wasn't working. So I had to download. The download versions all have the dealer hitting soft 17. So then I go to Starluck- and it's like DejaVu-Java doesn't work, and so many miracle 21's for the dealer. I realize there is variance, but it got old real quick. Plus- customer service was very poor. Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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This was clearly -EV. Why would you not try everything you could to get the download versions working? Reinstall Java, try different browsers? Why just suck it up and play the download version? That's just dumb....hence you're dumb.

AcmeSalesRep 11-27-2005 09:41 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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For Planetluck and Starluck I got $170 out of the potential $200 in bonuses and I felt like I ran exceptionally bad.

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Since the EV of these 2 bonuses is right around $185, you did not run anything close to exceptionally bad. You did not even run bad...

Acme

jman220 11-27-2005 11:35 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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For Planetluck and Starluck I got $170 out of the potential $200 in bonuses and I felt like I ran exceptionally bad.

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Since the EV of these 2 bonuses is right around $185, you did not run anything close to exceptionally bad. You did not even run bad...

Acme

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If I had a nickle for every time someone said "I just won 200 Big Bets on Party Poker in 4 hours, but I didn't feel like I was running exceptionally well..."

BigDave 11-27-2005 11:42 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
Hope you have a happy holidays too DarkForce. Bummer about Shogun, shoot me an email or a PM and I will see what I can do.

And to OP, this "crap" is not for everyone. Not a lot of people can handle playing 1,000s and 1,000s of Blackjack hands and sitting in front of a computer clicking a mouse over and over for hours and hours. Those that do like money a lot, so we put up with it and all the other "crap" that goes with it.

So you are not alone in thinking it. I would guess that a majority of people who bust out on their first couple of casinos would agree with you, just like a lot of my friends who bust their first 50 out of Party Poker are positive that it is rigged.

Homer 11-27-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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If by more of an expert you mean i can read and follow a chart then i guess i am more of an expert

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I was kidding (see what the OP wrote about being a BJ "expert").

timprov 11-27-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Hope you have a happy holidays too DarkForce. Bummer about Shogun, shoot me an email or a PM and I will see what I can do.

And to OP, this "crap" is not for everyone. Not a lot of people can handle playing 1,000s and 1,000s of Blackjack hands and sitting in front of a computer clicking a mouse over and over for hours and hours. Those that do like money a lot, so we put up with it and all the other "crap" that goes with it.

So you are not alone in thinking it. I would guess that a majority of people who bust out on their first couple of casinos would agree with you, just like a lot of my friends who bust their first 50 out of Party Poker are positive that it is rigged.

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Heck, I made money on Starluck and that was more or less my reaction. I find blackjack to be just about the most boring thing in the world, and I know I don't have the temperament to go through the delaying tactics and seizures people here have had to deal with. Sticking to poker is obviously the right choice for me.

DarkForceRising 11-27-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
The funny thing about casino whoring is that it reminded me how much I miss blackjack. I started my less than illustrious career in gambling counting cards. After the reality of the difficulties in making it playing 21 set in I took up poker out of sheer neccessity. Hell, I didn't even know what checkraise meant when I started reading my first poker book.

Having a 20 cracked by the dealers 7 card 21 just doesn't get to me like having a big hand cracked by some piece of crap on the other side who is laughing his ass off, thinking that he is Gods gift to Hold 'em, because he made duece four work.

I would take blackjack anyday if it offered the same potential.

SackUp 11-27-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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If by more of an expert you mean i can read and follow a chart then i guess i am more of an expert

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I guess you have not met Homer.

Homer = OG god of whoring.

Hence all his statements in this post have been in jest.

vilemerchant 11-27-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I'm a Noob- so maybe I'm not worthy of being critical. But I gotta tell you- I wouldn't recommend it to any one- period!

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Please continue. The more people you can pursuade NOT to take free money off casinos the longer casino-whoring will last for those that do. As for all those pleeding to the failed whores to give it another go and follow the chart, cut it out already [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

stigmata 11-28-2005 09:33 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
I like playing BJ when I'm drunk & tilting. I allways have a bonus to whore somewhere ready for the occasion.

11-28-2005 10:13 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I


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Ok,ok. You guys are brutal. I guess I used a poor choice of words for the subject. I should have used: "Intial impression from casino whoring is poor. I'm not sure it's for me. Is it really as profitable as I'm hearing?"
I posted an ignorant comment and I apologize. I am a Noob as you all were at some time. I am like a new child to the world. I didn't know any better. To those that were kind- Thank you. To those that were not- Thank you- I will try again. Peace.

PSW 11-28-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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I should have seen the flaming coming, but it's my initial impression. Not trying to knock anybodies windfall. Since it seems the overwhelming majority feels much differently- perhaps I should give it another try. I tried Planet Luck-and as you can guess I busted out. I adhered strictly to WOD guide. Flat betting $2 a hand. I thought it was VERY boring and it took quite a while. The no down load version wasn't working. So I had to download. The download versions all have the dealer hitting soft 17. So then I go to Starluck- and it's like DejaVu-Java doesn't work, and so many miracle 21's for the dealer. I realize there is variance, but it got old real quick. Plus- customer service was very poor. Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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This was clearly -EV. Why would you not try everything you could to get the download versions working? Reinstall Java, try different browsers? Why just suck it up and play the download version? That's just dumb....hence you're dumb.

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So you are saying that the Java version plays by different rules than the downloaded versions? Is this true of many of the casinos? How much of an advantage is there in the Java versions over the DL ones?

Thanks,

psw

11-28-2005 05:39 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I


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Ok,ok. You guys are brutal. I guess I used a poor choice of words for the subject. I should have used: "Intial impression from casino whoring is poor. I'm not sure it's for me. Is it really as profitable as I'm hearing?"
I posted an ignorant comment and I apologize. I am a Noob as you all were at some time. I am like a new child to the world. I didn't know any better. To those that were kind- Thank you. To those that were not- Thank you- I will try again. Peace.

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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

Homer 11-28-2005 06:10 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I


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Ok,ok. You guys are brutal. I guess I used a poor choice of words for the subject. I should have used: "Intial impression from casino whoring is poor. I'm not sure it's for me. Is it really as profitable as I'm hearing?"
I posted an ignorant comment and I apologize. I am a Noob as you all were at some time. I am like a new child to the world. I didn't know any better. To those that were kind- Thank you. To those that were not- Thank you- I will try again. Peace.

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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

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That's like shooting fish in a barrel. I've never seen such a large density of degenerate pricks in my life as I've seen in the BW casino forums.

11-28-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

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LOL- I know, I thought the same thing, but was fearful someone would figure out how to trace my IP address.

droolie 11-28-2005 07:05 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
I'm a big time poker bonus whore but I don't do casinos.

My one foray into Casino Whoring was utter crap. I whored all three casinos from the "integrity" group, won big on two (tripled my investement in pounds), broke even on the third.

Crap you ask? Many of you guys know the story well as many of you were f-ed over too. The "Integrity Group" welched and didn't pay me (or naybody else apparently) my winnings, only gave me my deposits back. It took weeks of anger and resentment and trips to casinonmeister (*shiver*) to even get my money back. I haven't bothered with whoring casino since to save myself further aggravation.

jman220 11-28-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I


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Ok,ok. You guys are brutal. I guess I used a poor choice of words for the subject. I should have used: "Intial impression from casino whoring is poor. I'm not sure it's for me. Is it really as profitable as I'm hearing?"
I posted an ignorant comment and I apologize. I am a Noob as you all were at some time. I am like a new child to the world. I didn't know any better. To those that were kind- Thank you. To those that were not- Thank you- I will try again. Peace.

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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

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That's like shooting fish in a barrel. I've never seen such a large density of degenerate pricks in my life as I've seen in the BW casino forums.

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Agreed.

12AX7 11-28-2005 09:25 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
What's the "WOD guide"?

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I adhered strictly to WOD guide.

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CLC 11-29-2005 09:37 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
It's "WOO" (Wizard of Odds) NOT "WOD".

To the OP:

You are not alone. There are others that have the same feelings. Personally, I am NOT one of them. Sure I have had ups and downs while whoring casinos, but the ups far outweigh the downs. Earlier this year I increased my bankroll by approx $8000 whoring casinos. I set aside $500 and started. I kept records in Excel and tracked my progress. I lost on the first casino and won on the second. Then won the third and broke even on the fourth. After playing over 60 casinos I had made a NICE profit. I then returned to playing mostly poker, but still dabble in casinos when I get a good reload bonus. Also, the monthly bonii are quite sweet. For me, persistance and sticking to the strategies on WOO paid off huge.

Jim Morrison 11-29-2005 08:49 PM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Obviously- there are more talented black jack players than I


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Ok,ok. You guys are brutal. I guess I used a poor choice of words for the subject. I should have used: "Intial impression from casino whoring is poor. I'm not sure it's for me. Is it really as profitable as I'm hearing?"
I posted an ignorant comment and I apologize. I am a Noob as you all were at some time. I am like a new child to the world. I didn't know any better. To those that were kind- Thank you. To those that were not- Thank you- I will try again. Peace.

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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

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That's like shooting fish in a barrel. I've never seen such a large density of degenerate pricks in my life as I've seen in the BW casino forums.

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Homer, I still love you though.

bholdr 11-30-2005 01:08 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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Well, let's see. I deposit $100, get a $100 bonus, play blackjack for a couple of hours and cash out $195. Rinse, repeat. Yeah, it's a load of crap.

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Or...I deposit $100, play poker for 3 weeks single-tabling, and walk away with $300 (not counting what I've won).

Yes, you are alone.

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good god, guys... there is nothing in the world quite as boring as playing a couple thousand hands of $1 blackjack, except maybe single tabling micro limits. ugh. gross.

c'mon. grow a set and bet $5/hand or something... the EV is the same (well, actually...), though the RoR and variance increses a bit. I won't even touch a casino bonus these days unless I'm making (in EV) $100/hr. god, i hate online blackjack (though i have a strange attraction to it at B&Ms now...).

bholdr 11-30-2005 01:13 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
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You want to see brutal? Repost your orignal post over at the BW casino forums. You probably won't make it out alive.

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Just remember to DO A SEARCH FIRST, NOOB! (he he... now i wanna create a gimmik acct and repost the OP over at BWs... nah...)

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That's like shooting fish in a barrel. I've never seen such a large density of degenerate pricks in my life as I've seen in the BW casino forums.

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aggreed. they're my kind of people.

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Homer, I still love you though.

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me too.

-icenine.

livinitup0 11-30-2005 01:22 AM

Re: Am I alone in my thinking that casino whoring is a load of crap?
 
The "offical NOOB striketeam" is waiting...


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