Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

Villain is about 25/20/3.75 over limited hands FWIW.


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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

I think you can bet the river.

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I think you can bet the river.

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Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

I'd bet the river. He's shown he can be overaggressive, even in limited hands.

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

One question, why did you name the thread blind steal? Raising with 88 when folded around to me is standard. At least to me...

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

Good cap PF. Well played, except value bet the river.

More importantly, find a new table.

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One question, why did you name the thread blind steal? Raising with 88 when folded around to me is standard. At least to me...

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I agree. You're not raising just to steal the blinds, but because you probably have the best hand. The raise is for value.

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

i'm just happy to see the preflop cap. that is a thing of beauty. not many people have the balls, but i think it is a brilliant play.

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

you played this very well until teh river.

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you played this very well until teh river.

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I disagree, what value does he have in betting this river? We know the Villian is a 25/20 and aggressive but what true value is he getting from betting the riv? The only plausible hands the Villian is paying him off with are a,rag (which paired) or 77.

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The only plausible hands the Villian is paying him off with are a,rag (which paired) or 77.


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And this is probably what he has, so bet.

(Also, don't be surprised to get called by AK on occasion.)

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you played this very well until teh river.

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I disagree, what value does he have in betting this river? We know the Villian is a 25/20 and aggressive but what true value is he getting from betting the riv? The only plausible hands the Villian is paying him off with are a,rag (which paired) or 77.

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you must be joking. this river is an easy value bet. any 2x, 3x, 4x, 6x, Ax, or 77 is paying him off here.

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you must be joking. this river is an easy value bet. any 2x, 3x, 4x, 6x, Ax, or 77 is paying him off here.



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Hero is paying 3x off [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]--but I agree with the rest.

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

oops... replace 3x with 5x... i didnt remember the post

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

Thanks all for the replies...Villain did indeed turn over an unimproved AK, so I wouldn't have been surprised if he donated one more bet on the river. The Q was scary enough for me to wuss out, though.

P.S. I called it a "blind steal" hand just because that's the position I was in and how my opponent probably saw it...obviously first-in LP with 88 the raise is for value.

Re: Blind steal with 88: this look OK?
 

First time I've ever said "grunch."

It seems to me that if you're confident that you are ahead on the turn, you should value bet the river. Since the read is only over limited hands, though, it's tough to comment on the turn. I think I'd do the same thing, but I'd have to know better what the villain would 3 bet preflop with to feel really comfortable about it.