You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Villain is 60/3. Nothing tricky.

Preflop sometimes I raise it up, sometimes see a flop.
I whiffed the flop cr.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($0)
Hero ($600)
MP ($662.80)
CO ($579)
Button ($1480.48)
SB ($1004.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $6. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls $9.

Flop: ($48) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $41</font>, MP folds, Button calls $41.

River: ($130) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $200</font>, Hero?

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Call and kick yourself for letting KQ outdraw you.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

I'm not re-raising there. You played the hand fine though.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Why do you not lead the flop ?

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

cuz you can expect MP to bet the flop a huge percentage of the time and possibly trap the button in the middle with a call or even raise

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

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Why do you not lead the flop ?

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Cause preflop raiser plays passive post flop, but will call down with marginal hands. Thought I could get some dead money from loose guy, maybe get preflop raisers stack if he had an ace.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

but your hand become transparent when you check-raise.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

who said anything about a check-raise

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Why post a blind UTG?

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

maybe because "observant" players will assume you are a fish if you do it?

that $6 post on the first hand could be worth a whole lot more until they figure out you are strong

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Referring to whiffed flop cr.

I'm bb, missed the converter screw up.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Played fine. Call river and expect to win more than 50% of the time.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Surprised no one is tempted to raise this.

Everybody wanted to push this one

I almost timed out thinking about whether to push or not.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

I dont think a raise is entirely out of the question. From the action I think he could safely have AA, TT, 44, 33, AJ, or KQ. Only 2 out of those 6 hands beat you. So you're behind 2 hands out of 6 total hands that he probably has here. You're likely ahead. The tricky part is that he only minraised the river. If you think it's a "PLEASE CALL ME I HAVE THE NUTS" raise just call, if you think it's a "I have close to the nuts but not quite" raise, then push.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

you played it fine imo.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

just call.
BTW/ i mightve check/called river.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

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just call.
BTW/ i mightve check/called river.

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I did, he had the nuts. Thought I might have been results oriented though, apparently not.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

Lead flop, slowplaying is for newbs. Call river, raising doesnt get called by much that you beat.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

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Surprised no one is tempted to raise this.

Everybody wanted to push this one

I almost timed out thinking about whether to push or not.

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The action in these two hands is very, very different.

Re: You guys probably wan to raise this river. I\'m not so sure.
 

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Villain is 60/3. Nothing tricky.

Preflop sometimes I raise it up, sometimes see a flop.
I whiffed the flop cr.

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Bet and hope to 3-bet the flop! Do people really think checking or check/raising this flop is the standard play versus a loose passive player?