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Just curious as to what anyone who possibly has a subscription at his site thinks about it. Not sure if I am allowed to link to it.

Edit: Posting this here because many of his videos are applicable to the High Stakes UB games that a lot of you frequent.

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I'm also interested in knowing this, also are videos like his available for free anywhere? And YES; I'm cheap.

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from what I hear they're useful for $1/2 through $5/10 but not higher really

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I'd be interested to read some reviews too. Have just made my way into the $2NL tables, so this might be worthwhile. Surely some people here have subcribed and can give us the lowdown?

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I paid 9 bucks for one of his 5-10 ones awhileback, cant remember which one -it was 6max. Nothing you wouldnt already know strategy wise, but i found his mindset/emotionless state interesting. From the video it appeared he had not a trace of ego, very polite and respectful towards his opponents. Now that could have been a front of course u cant tell from 30 mins, but I thought it was interesting. e.g. his opponent makes a probably bad river call with A high (and wins pot) and he's like 'ok so he made a loose call there, thats interesting, i'll take that into consideration, see if i can take advantage' where as i would have been like 'u gotta be kidding me' type thought.

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he probably does the voice overs after the vid is taken

just like the espn announcers

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Any idea if it is mostly 6-max or if there is a significant amount of full-ring material there?

I looked at the video list without signing up and it appears there are a handful of videos for each player listed there. Is this the entire selection? (ex: 8 vids for Green Plastic)

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he probably does the voice overs after the vid is taken

just like the espn announcers

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eh, seems like too much work. plus its probably more fun for him to do stuff while he is playing? I dunno. Watching one of the sample vids it seemed genuine to me.

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he probably does the voice overs after the vid is taken

just like the espn announcers

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eh, seems like too much work. plus its probably more fun for him to do stuff while he is playing? I dunno. Watching one of the sample vids it seemed genuine to me.

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for free? Sure - check out the bill filmaff site and remember 'always value bet your nuts'

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'always value call your nuts'

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anybody got the address?

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Alright - I just signed up for this site (Cardrunners.com) and i'll give a quick review.

There are 48 videos right now (they add more, probably only a few a week.) The only reason I signed up was for the videos. They are pretty good, but for NL cash, there just isn't many of them. I think for most of you experienced guys, they won't offer that much, either. GP's section has some good videos of him playing 5/10 6-max/3/6 6-max, and I really think they gave me some good insight into how a LAG uses position and he punishes people who show weakness. But I am not a NL cash game expert and for you guys who are already beating 5/10 or above and have plenty of hands online I doubt it will offer much to you.

He talks over the video as he plays. This is the best part, it's great to see him struggle over tough decisions and think his way through what he's thinking.

Most of the videos are actually of SNG's/MTT play/heads up SNG's. I think they are good videos if any of you are interested in learning more about that stuff. I feel it's on an intermediate/advanced level of teaching. It's for people who know how to play but maybe are looking for ways to ramp up their aggression.

It's $40 for a "sign-up fee", and $20 per month. The sign up fee is probably so people don't just sign up for $20 and watch all the videos. Honestly I think they should add more videos but the 4 "pros" on the site are all in school I think and probably don't have as much time.

The highest limit shown is 5/10 NL. I'm not sure if GP would want to show how he plays 25/50 NL and above.

Consensus: I like it, but I am only an intermediate 2/4 3/6 NL player. In the long run of things it's not that much money for what I feel it has helped me, giving me some more ideas on how to play.

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Thank you for writing that review. Generally how long are the cash game videos? How about the other ones?

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IMO green plastic is the strongest UB player around. He's a good guy too. I haven't seen the site yet but trust it is excellent and highly recommend signing up.

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I've been a member of the site for the past 3 months and it's helped my cash game tremendously. The focus is on 6 max games and most of the cash game videos are of that nature. Also, the limits in the videos concentrate mostly on mid-limits 1-2/2-4/3-6 with some 5-10. Nothing over that but most of the members don't play above those limits. The content is updated on a surprisingly regular regular basis, given that the staff are all full-time college students.

If you hadn't been playing a loose aggressive style prior to joining the site, I found it takes a little bit of time to develop some proficiency. It puts you in a lot of marginal situations.

However, the staff is extremely good at going through their thinking process in the videos to explain why they make the decisions they do. The MTT and SNG content has grown over the past 3 months but that's not my focus. Perhaps another CR member who's more of a MTT or SNG player could comment?

The staff is incredibly responsive to member requests and will make a video for just about any kind of NLHE game that you might ask for, although I do think Taylor is jealous of sharing his strategy above 5-10 (and rightly so). Plus there are some very good players in the 2-4 through 5-10 limits, as well as $100 plus buy-in MTTs who are members and contribute a lot of good content to the forum.

Hope that helps.

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anybody got the address?

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Yeah, no worries.

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Ive been a member for 3 months and couldnt be more happier with the results. Before I joined, I was mainly a tourny player and was looking to improve my cash game abilities. The tactics they teach are heavy towards a shorthanded Loose aggressive style and can be a little tough at first. But the videos they produce showing their style in play are priceless. Very informative and thorough. It has helped me and many others immensely improve in a short period of time. Ive been a member to some other training sites and can say that I havent found one that compares yet in my opinion. The members for the most part have formed a bond with each other and support each other regularly at the tables. All the pros are very willing to answer any question you have in a timely manner. I recommend it highly. And I have even picked up some great tips to improve my mtt game also. Some of the pros are geared more toward the tournament scene. So you have the best of both worlds. Hoped this helped GL

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Generally how long are the videos?

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I joined cardrunners about a month ago as i was making a switch from sitngo's to the cash games. Overall, I really enjoy the videos as they give valuable insight to those individuals who are first starting to play the cash games at stakes $5/$10 and below, or those players who are looking to improve their performance at stakes $5/$10 or below. I cannot comment whether or not the site will help improve your game if you play higher than $5/$10 as i do not play that high. I'll let someone else comment there.

This is the "High Stakes" NL Forum, and most individuals here are playing $5/$10 and higher, and therefore wouldn't get as much out of the site as individuals who play the lower stakes cash games. For someone just learning the game, i think this site is a must in addition to reading the Theory of Poker and Super System.

I agree with one of the previous posters who commented that the true value of the videos is the audio commentary from the pros. They play a LAG strategy, and you get to listen to them go through their thought process on each hand as it's played.

The cash game videos are primarily 20-30 minutes in length, however there are a few longer ones. GP's last video is 90 minutes long and it shows him 2 tabling a cash game and a $200 sitngo. They add new videos on a consistent basis, and are very receptive to new ideas and ways to improve their site.

Overall, if your playing at stakes less than $5/$10 and not beating the game to your liking, i would check the site out. If your at $1/$2, $2/$4- joining will not put a dent in your bankroll, and if you play smaller stakes, it's definitely worth the investment. Cheers, Maurice.

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I joined a few weeks ago to improve my cash game play and SNG/MTT play. The advice they give you is invaluable and the site has improved my game tremendously. I've had a lot of success lately using the style that they teach, which is playing aggressive in position and conservative out of position. Green Plastic has a lot of 6 max cash games of varying stakes, and he has a few HU SNG's on top of that. The videos they post seem to be longer sessions every time, so that's good. Jsup just posted a 4 part MTT w/ rebuys totaling about 4-5 hours of footage, it was a great watch. I'd reccomend the sight to everybody who wants to improve as a poker player. The lessons I've learned have more than paid for themselves.

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It's funny how 4 newbies found this thread, and took the time to write such great reviews. Thanks guys.

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Certainly not a very admirable advertising style. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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It's funny how 4 newbies found this thread, and took the time to write such great reviews. Thanks guys.

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Anybody who refers to somebody as a newbie on a bulletin board and feels superior should be shot.

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It's funny how 4 newbies found this thread, and took the time to write such great reviews. Thanks guys.

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Anybody who refers to somebody as a newbie on a bulletin board and feels superior should be shot.

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Holy random hostility batman!

He's not saying that because you're a newb he's better. He's saying that because you're a newb it's highly likely you're just plugging your own product.

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He's not saying that because you're a newb he's better. He's saying that because you're a newb it's highly likely you're just plugging your own product.

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Yeah, theres like a 99.9% chance its actually GP himself in all 4 of these posts.

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Yeah, theres like a 99.9% chance its actually GP himself in all 4 of these posts.

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I am simply clarifying DOTT's position. But I don't think it's inconceivable that he asked a few of the people who help run the thing to put up these posts.

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Guys, I realize this is my first post here, but I felt like this needed to be clarified. Someone, a member, posted on cardrunners that there was a thread up about the site on twoplustwo. He gave a link and said that people were talking about the site and asking for opinions about it.

Well, who better to give opinions than actual members? So these "newbies", including myself, came on here and gave the original poster, and anyone interested, their views of the site. All of the posts on here who claim to be by cardrunners members are, so there is certainly no reason to think otherwise. I mean, come on, GP can make 20K in a session playing poker, do you really think he's going to stoop to that kind of level to get a few extra members to sign up for his site (profiting him MAYBE a couple hundred dollars). Give me a break.

I agree with all the members who have come on here and reviewed the site - it also has changed my game and improved it immensly.

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Guys, I realize this is my first post here, but I felt like this needed to be clarified. Someone, a member, posted on cardrunners that there was a thread up about the site on twoplustwo. He gave a link and said that people were talking about the site and asking for opinions about it.

Well, who better to give opinions than actual members? So these "newbies", including myself, came on here and gave the original poster, and anyone interested, their views of the site. All of the posts on here are by cardrunners members, so there is certainly no reason to think otherwise. I mean, come on, GP can make 20K in a session playing poker, do you really think he's going to stoop to that kind of level to get a few extra members to sign up for his site (profiting him MAYBE a couple hundred dollars). Give me a break.

I agree with all the members who have come on here and reviewed the site - it also has changed my game and improved it immensly.

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Good point. I'll check the site out when I quit spending my whole damn bankroll on christmas presents.

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Guys, I realize this is my first post here, but I felt like this needed to be clarified. Someone, a member, posted on cardrunners that there was a thread up about the site on twoplustwo. He gave a link and said that people were talking about the site and asking for opinions about it.

Well, who better to give opinions than actual members? So these "newbies", including myself, came on here and gave the original poster, and anyone interested, their views of the site. All of the posts on here who claim to be by cardrunners members are, so there is certainly no reason to think otherwise. I mean, come on, GP can make 20K in a session playing poker, do you really think he's going to stoop to that kind of level to get a few extra members to sign up for his site (profiting him MAYBE a couple hundred dollars). Give me a break.

I agree with all the members who have come on here and reviewed the site - it also has changed my game and improved it immensly.

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Yeah, theres like a 99.9% chance its actually GP himself in all 4 of these posts.

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12/08 daily suckout

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I, for one, appreciate you guys coming here and giving your reviews. Thanks.

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Told you, 99.9%

I was being serious.

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Slightly more admirable.

Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I still think the writing style looks peculiar

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I dont understand how a SSNL play could not sign up for only $60.

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There is a free video from Green Plastic from a 10 man $25 nl game if you look under his section in videos. Not a lot happens so i'm guessing thats why its free but might give you a better idea of the format than the sample video on the main page.

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I dont understand how a SSNL play could not sign up for only $60.

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Are the videos that good?

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I dont understand how a SSNL play could not sign up for only $60.

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Are the videos that good?

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From what I could see (I could be missing something), there were somewhere around 6 videos for SSNL, and they were mostly 3/6 to 5/10 shorthanded games.

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I've been a member for about a month and I mostly agree with the "Newbie" posters. The videos are really good at showing the LAG style. Green Plastic's are gold, but the other players' videos are also worthwhile. I'm not really a tournament player, but JSup's videos are very well done.

For $60, I don't think most players would be making a mistake with signing up. Some of the higher limit NL players, like 5-10 or higher, might not get much out of the site, though. But, the way I look at it with poker learning tools, if you learn one single move, theory, etc. how can it not pay for itself?

Also, one night I got drunk and watched some of JSup's videos for a $5 rebuy tourney, where he played the rebuy rounds like a lunatic. It was pretty hilarious. See, even a little comedic relief for your money.

In summary, definitely worth the money, more video updates would be nice, though.

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please, it's 60 bucks. learning one or two new concepts can be worth so much more than that it's ridiculous, even in low stakes games.

--turnipmonster

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He's not saying that because you're a newb he's better. He's saying that because you're a newb it's highly likely you're just plugging your own product.

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Yeah, theres like a 99.9% chance its actually GP himself in all 4 of these posts.

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i doubt it