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Fryguy 12-28-2005 05:18 AM

How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Well, I was going to go to atlantic city and play for a couple of days, had the whole trip planned and stuff, and at the last minute got a vicious stomach flu and had to stay home. Feeling better now, however, and I'm wanting to go to Foxwoods on thursday.
I haven't played online in about a week, and have about $600 for a session at Foxwoods, so I'm thinking about spending a day playing 5/10 there. I've played 2/4 there before back a couple of months ago when I was still doing .25/.50 and .50/1 online, and did pretty good except the rake is hard to beat [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Now that I'm playing 2/4 and 3/6 online and doing well, I thought I'd take a shot at 5/10 at Foxwoods. Is this a good idea, or should I step down to 4/8 or up to 10/20 and play extra tight?

I can lose all $600 no problem, I've got another $700 or so for online playing, but I WOULD like to make some money on this session as easily as possible.

Any thoughts on the difficulty of these games?

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-28-2005 10:17 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
depends on how you want to treat your bankroll. The 4/8 at Foxwoodds ia a typical LP game much like a 1/2 online game. The 5/10 which is a kill game (any pot of $100 or more initiates the kill) can vary for LP to extrememely wild. I've played in it some days where it would be at the 10/20 level for about 2/3 of the hands.

Depending on when you go, it might be easier to get a seat at the 5/10 than at the 4/8

jba 12-28-2005 10:32 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
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I can lose all $600 no problem

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go for it then. it is a very soft game and easily comparable to .5/1 party.

raze 12-28-2005 10:58 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
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Well, I was going to go to atlantic city and play for a couple of days, had the whole trip planned and stuff, and at the last minute got a vicious stomach flu and had to stay home. Feeling better now, however, and I'm wanting to go to Foxwoods on thursday.
I haven't played online in about a week, and have about $600 for a session at Foxwoods, so I'm thinking about spending a day playing 5/10 there. I've played 2/4 there before back a couple of months ago when I was still doing .25/.50 and .50/1 online, and did pretty good except the rake is hard to beat [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Now that I'm playing 2/4 and 3/6 online and doing well, I thought I'd take a shot at 5/10 at Foxwoods. Is this a good idea, or should I step down to 4/8 or up to 10/20 and play extra tight?

I can lose all $600 no problem, I've got another $700 or so for online playing, but I WOULD like to make some money on this session as easily as possible.

Any thoughts on the difficulty of these games?

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If you do play 10/20 then don't be 'extra tight' ie. weak-tight. Clearly you will be intimidated at this limit, so better stay at 4/8 or 5/10 for your bankroll's sake.

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-28-2005 01:10 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Plus, the 10/20 at Foxwoods is often softer than the 5/10. I think aggro players like kill games.

Fryguy 12-28-2005 01:13 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
When I meant extra tight, I meant playing like 14/10/2.5 instead of my more typical 18-20/10/2.5. Still you are right, so I won't play 10/20

I'll be at foxwoods at around 8:30 AM tomorrow (thursday), so getting into any game won't be much of a problem. Are all 5/10 games kill games? And what is the Foxwoods kill? Just double blinds next hand or something else?

And I'm treating this session like taking a shot at a higher level, if I have a good winning session, great, if I have a losing session and lose all 600, that's fine too. I've got plenty of bankroll to continue playing online.

I'd kind of prefer to just sit at a passive table that I can run over as opposed to some wild kill game with people 4-betting with 72o preflop, so maybe I'll play the 4/8.

TheJunkyardGod 12-28-2005 02:34 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
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go for it then. it is a very soft game and easily comparable to .5/1 party.

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How true of a general statement is this? I've been thinking about giving 5/10 a shot in AC, or when I go to Vegas in March. I have good results at partys .5/10.

soh538 12-28-2005 03:17 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
The 5-10 with a full kill is a pretty good game at Foxwoods, if you ever get down hopefully you can hit a kill pot, and even out. Last time up there i was able to do pretty well in the game, and with $600 you should be able to do well, considering your play. The Foxwoods 4-8 sometimes plays like a 3-6, and 1-2 NL is not worth it with the $5 time play.

Fryguy 12-28-2005 03:20 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
You think $600 is enough to cover the high variance of a kill game? I was kind of hoping to be able to sit down with like $300, and then reload if necessary. Being in the kill game makes me feel almost obligated to sit down with all 600 though.

I don't play nl, so that's out of the question. It's between 4/8 and 5/10 kill for me now.

Also, is the kill a live blind at foxwoods?

jar 12-28-2005 03:24 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Yes, the kill is live. The foxwoods kill triggers at any non-split pot >=$100. Sometimes the 5/10 is a rock garden, and you barely play any kill pots. Sometimes it's wild and wooly, and you only drop the kill when there's a split pot. Given that you're taking a shot at a bigger game for you, you want to find a table somewhere in between. Don't be shy about asking for a table change.

12-28-2005 03:37 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
I've had more than one session of 5/10 at Foxwoods where I've ended up down $700. When there are a lot of kill pots you're money can really disappear quickly if you're not winning. You definitely want to bring the whole $600, but you don't need to buy in for all $600 if that's what you were saying. Just buy in for $200 and keep putting money on the table if you take some hits.

Fryguy 12-28-2005 03:39 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
hrmm, decisions decisions.

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-28-2005 06:22 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Are all 5/10 games kill games?

HE & O/8, yes.


And what is the Foxwoods kill?

Any pot of at least $100 with a single winner


Just double blinds next hand or something else?

Blinds remain the same (unless the killer is in one of the blinds) - $2/$5. Winner of the kill hand posts a $10 live blind.

As you can see, once the kill is initiated, any pot of 5 bb or more keeps the kill going.

Fryguy 12-28-2005 08:37 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Oh, I thought that the blinds doubled for the foxwoods kill?

So the only difference is if the pot gets to $100, the winner of the pot posts a live straddle next round?

jba 12-28-2005 08:42 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
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Oh, I thought that the blinds doubled for the foxwoods kill?

So the only difference is if the pot gets to $100, the winner of the pot posts a live straddle next round?

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the blinds stay at 2/5, kill pot winner posts live $10 blind, stakes are $10/$20. big blind (non-kill) must call $5 to see the flop in an unraised pot..

Fryguy 12-28-2005 08:49 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Oh ok, this is more what I thought the situation was, except I thought that the blinds got increased too for the round.

I don't really feel comfortable messing around with a game like that, so I'm going to just play the 4/8 and hopefully kill it for a few hundred.

murellus 12-28-2005 09:47 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
the structure of the game is great for solid players, especially on kill pots...i dont see a reason why you wouldn't sit based on your actual experience online...the 5/10 game is very easy, but can suck if you're not hitting, but i believe it's very much worth the risk

12-29-2005 12:38 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 

You said you were doing well playing 2/4 or 3/6 online, I would suggest giving 10/20 a shot. Just play your game and adjust accordingly. It will surely build your confidence. And if it goes sour and you drop $250 - $300 to extreme suckouts, then go to 5/10 or 4/8.

12-29-2005 01:06 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
I know where I play, the folks who play 10/20 will play 5/10 regularly as well, and I can destroy them in the 5/10... I don't have near the bankroll to start playing the 10/20, but I hope to within 2 months.

Fryguy 12-30-2005 12:46 AM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
Eh well I went, played 4/8, and lost 10bb an hour for 3 hours before I finally said screw it and left :/

And the downswing continues.

Thanks for the advice guys

12-30-2005 07:25 PM

Re: How easy is foxwoods 5/10?
 
I was playing 5/10 at Foxwoods over the X-mas break and i lost $100 so i decided to play in the 1/2 NL game and won like $600. I was going to go back and play 5/10 but i was so deep on the 1/2 $100 restricted buy in game I decided to stay and i won another $300. I have won alot playing in the 5/10 game but if you are at a bad table u can lose alot also.


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