Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

1/2 live nl

im the button w/99 suits not important and about $400

6 limpers to me and i limp

flop comes 66Q
checked around

turn card 9
solid player in small blind bets $10
5 callers and i call

right or wrong?

Re: Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

Jeez, that is a weak tight game if I've ever seen one. I would probably raise to something like 30 there, hoping to get a couple callers and then have someone raise me.

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the reason i didn't raise wasn't that i feared my hand was no good. i felt sure the small blind had a 6 and i knew he would fire again and then i could raise making it harder for him to get away from his hand and getting some dead money in the pot from the players in between he and i. please all comments are welcome. just trying to improve.

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You fear your hand is no good? All that beats you is QQ, Q6, and 66. What are you afraid of? This is a hand that can be slowplayed. Raise the river.

Edit: My fault. I read your post wrong.

Re: Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

no that wasn't what i said
i felt confident my hand was good on the turn
and i was waiting to raise on the river
i was just wondering if anyone raises on the turn if so how much?

thanks

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I think you played it just fine. With only a call on the turn, he may sense you are still searching for something or are not sure about your hand. Odds are he bets big or pushes on the river and you got him where you want him. Nice play. Bummer if he shows 66 though huh? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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It really depends on the other player, stacks, etc.

Yes you can definitely slowplay here, but I'd probably raise to about 20-40 or so on the turn, with that many people still in the pot, I'm bound to get somebody who likes their hand enough to make a big-ish call on the river, and at least 2 or so to the turn, not to mention a slowplayed six might come over the top.

I think calling here isn't a bad idea either, just probably not what I would do, personally (of course, it very much depends on the table, players, yada yada)

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I raise on the flop with that many limpers and me on the button. With pocket 9's there is a fair chance I have the best hand pre flop. I want to clear out the Arag hands, the K10off's, and don't want the blinds in for cheap/free.

It just so happened you got a free look at the turn AND turned that 9. It would have sucked to allow 6J in the BB for free only to loose to his trips without improvement on your part.

So I raise the flop. I don't want pocket 9's seven handed. The odds are too great there are going to be over cards on the flop that help someone with that many people in the pot.

You need to increase your agression (selectivly of course).

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I don't see how Q6 can beat 99 here ...

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I would minraise the turn since you are last to talk and everyone called the bet. Build the pot ! And raise/push the river.
I Call the turn bet only if I was BB or UTG and want more people to stay in the pot. You fear 2 hands only and I think the SB would raise preflop his QQ to clear the field.

Re: Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

Since QQ is ruled out considering the preflop action, the only hand you're afraid of is 66 which is highly unlikely. The chances are too small to consider. Instead, maximize the earnings! Build a pot too big for the fish to let go of and crush them on the river. Watch out for a Q or a 6 on the river though [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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of course the river was a Q the SB checked and a middle position player bet forty. i showed the SB my hand as i folded it and he showed me 56o as he mucked. i felt the texture of the game and my image at the table that a small raise would not clear the field because any Q would come anyway and a big raise on the turn would give it away. just a bad river comments?

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i felt the texture of the game and my image at the table that a small raise would not clear the field because any Q would come anyway and a big raise on the turn would give it away.

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this is the best argument to raise the turn that i've seen.

i like the limp with that many players in. you're probably not going to be able to get it heads up or even 3way, and 99 plays better in short-handed pots where you’re hoping you’ll hold up unimproved or big family pots where you’re hoping to flop a set. I’d limp.

i like the check behind on the flop. there are too many people in the pot for me to try to pick it up here – there’s too good a chance somebody’s got a Q or 6.

i’d definitely raise the turn. there’s a good chance that a 6 is out there and is already slowplaying, so you have a good chance of getting a reraise (anyone in this pot could reraise here, not just the original bettor). you can’t fear QQ or 66 – just assume that you currently have the nuts. in this case, you and the SB probably would have put in a lot of money while he was drawing to a 1-outer.

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5 callers and you want to slowplay? I would raise here every time and 6 times on sunday. the 9 looks like a safe card so anyone with a 6 will think you're making a move and raise back. and with 5 callers, some idiot has a 6 and is begging for you to raise.

--turnipmonster

Re: Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

raise, for the fact that there are 5 callers alone.

also raise because soemone could very easily have a 6, or a smaller boat, and you may lose value if you dont pump up the pot now.

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i felt the texture of the game and my image at the table that a small raise would not clear the field because any Q would come anyway and a big raise on the turn would give it away. just a bad river comments?

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Give what away? That you like your hand? That you're bluffing? That you have a six? You're on the button, everyone has come along anyways. The pot is getting bigger, maximize your chances of winning it. Don't let the Q or the 6 draw to his 1 or 2 outer for free. Raise NOW. There's only one more street to collect bets on so get the money in now before everyone else misses their draws to other full houses.

Re: Turned a full: Slowplay?
 

you wanted to know how much to bet, think i'd 3/4 pot it. does depend on your pos though.

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raise 100% of the time here. you have a very big hand, and probably someone has a big hand with you (someone most likely has a 6)... you want to win a big pot and you can't do that if you don't start raising now.