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coltrane just called me from Lucky Chances. Effective today, bets larger than $200 are barred in Colma due to action of law. The $20-40 no-cap nl game (previously $10-10-20, $40 to go) is now a $20-40 blind $40-200 spread-limit game.

High stakes no limit is dead. Long live high stakes no limit.

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holy crap is this for real?

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Uhhhh...Hope that's not in LA too.

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ugh this sucks. I had planned on playing in this game next week for the first time.

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For what it's worth, I just talked to someone in the top section and she said that they expect to have things back to normal by next week.

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Wow, that's horrible. I remember reading in the Chronicle that they were trying to get this law passed, but it didn't sound like it would. Hopefully it gets overturned quickly - I was hoping to play in it in the next month.

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wow, my friend is going to be devistated.. he loves that place's 2/3/5 NL game. And he loves the fact he can make large bets (like pushing all in with a 1600$ stack).. its gonna really screw up that game..

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spino,

Is your friend one of the sharks?

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no he's not he's one of the fish (well in my opinon anyway).. id say he's breakeven there at best.. not sure why he wants to keep going there

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This should now be a good game for a lot of our posters.

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This is the worst news I could possibly hear about anything.

AHH!!!!!

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lapoker, do you know if these changes are in effect for LA as well?

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For what it's worth, I just talked to someone in the top section and she said that they expect to have things back to normal by next week.

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Thank you Lord. It's a Christmas Miracle!

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lapoker, do you know if these changes are in effect for LA as well?

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You didn't address me but since he said its a new law in colma I would guess that no, it does not change anything in LA

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it could easily set a precedent though which would suck

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it could easily set a precedent though which would suck

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I think you've misunderstood what precedent means, or at least, specifically what it means in terms of law. If Los Angeles was not previously considering similar legislation, chances are very poor that this decision will affect them in any way.

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I do not understand why towns want this kind of law. What is the driving force behind the politicians who pass it?

And in a town like Colma can't Lucky Chances just corrupt it or cheat? What is their malfunction?

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I do not understand why towns want this kind of law. What is the driving force behind the politicians who pass it?

And in a town like Colma can't Lucky Chances just corrupt it or cheat? What is their malfunction?

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I think typically towns/states institute these kinds of laws in the hopes of stopping people from becoming raving gamble-aholics and flushing their lives away. Or at least, stopping them from doing it quickly.

Lots of states/counties do it actually, Florida and Washington come to mind immediately, and Colorado too.

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I do not understand why towns want this kind of law. What is the driving force behind the politicians who pass it?

And in a town like Colma can't Lucky Chances just corrupt it or cheat? What is their malfunction?

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I think typically towns/states institute these kinds of laws in the hopes of stopping people from becoming raving gamble-aholics and flushing their lives away. Or at least, stopping them from doing it quickly.

Lots of states/counties do it actually, Florida and Washington come to mind immediately, and Colorado too.

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ppl need to do some research before expressing utterly unfounded opinions. from the first article:

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It all started in 1996 when card clubs, looking to cement their market share in the state's metropolitan areas, got a law passed barring any new clubs with "no limit" gambling.

Right about that time, Colma -- which was looking around for a cardroom to help pay its bills -- passed an ordinance allowing gambling in the town that included a $200-per-hand limit.

A couple of years later, when it finally got a cardroom, Colma passed a new law, lifting the $200 limit.

Another cardroom -- Artichoke Joe's in nearby San Bruno -- shot off a letter of complaint to the attorney general's office

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from the second article:

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Colma’s loss could be San Bruno’s gain. The city is home to Artichoke Joe’s, an 84-year-old cardroom that under San Bruno law offers unlimited betting on several games. After hounding state regulators for years about Lucky Chances, Artichoke Joe’s attorney, Alan Titus, succeeded in winning a ruling that Colma’s ordinance allowing for no-limit betting violated state law.

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this is simply about competition. the town of colma desperately wants the tax revenue generated by allowing no-limit betting, it could care less how fast gamblers flush away their lives.

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Thanks for the links.

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this is simply about competition. the town of colma desperately wants the tax revenue generated by allowing no-limit betting, it could care less how fast gamblers flush away their lives.

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Very good. Hopefully I can get back to flushing mine.

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$40-$200 spread is a great game. I played it there yesterday. Nobody has a clue. Problem is it's not going to last in its current format.

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haak,

In relation to fixed-limit games, how big would you estimate it was playing?

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Pretty big. About 80-160ish. Sam B. seemed to be the only one who adjusted well to the new structure.

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the funniest thing is that the $200 max bet applies to ALL the games (including Pai Gow) - so literally the 20/40nl and the 1/1/2nl had the same max bet!.....I was meeting a fellow 2+2er there to do some drinking and some donking in the 2/3/5nl, and people were seriously cold-calling 200 preflop....while certainly profitable, it didn't feel like NL so we decided to go down to the 1/1/2 where it felt more like NL since the max-bet is closer to the stack sizes (it's not really fun to be drunk and yell "ALL IN!" only to be told that you can only bet 1/4 of your stack)..... [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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spino,

Is your friend one of the sharks?

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diablo,

you're a pretty funny guy sometimes.....

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but just think about all the minraising you can do.

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coltrane,

I am SO going to do this: I will have like an $800 stack or something and then when someone bets and I am bluffing I will go "ALLIN" and then the dealer will be like "max bet $200 sir" and then I will be like "WTF I want to bet $800 ALLIN!!!!" and then the dealer will say "sorry sir, house rules $200 max" and then I will go "damn that sucks" and then everyone will be like "whoa that guy must have one hell of a hand" and fold and then I will show them the bluff!!!!!!

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then all eight limpers will be like "whoa that guy must have one hell of a hand" but then decide to cold-call the 200 anyway and then I will flop 992 (nut full house) and take down a moster pot as QJo and 34s chase me all the way down to the river!!!

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Fixed Your Post

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this appears to be right. granted i don't play much live poker, but i don't see the action going like this very often:

pot 250: on the turn, board Q857 rainbow

sb checks, i push 300, mp calls (~350 behind after calling), sb calls (~300 behind after calling)

river 8

sb goes "i have ace high," dealer informs him that there are still actions left. mp pushes. sb shows his AT, folds.

this was very odd.

c

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ppl need to do some research before expressing utterly unfounded opinions.

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People need to read posts more carefully before running their mouths about how I am spouting off unfounded opinions.

Re-read my post. I didn't say this was why I thought Colma did it, I said it was why I thought the TYPICAL state/town did it. At no point in time did I say it was why Colma did it, nor did I insinuate that it was fact.

Do you think the state of Washington had a 10, then 25, then 100$ cap (now 200, and constantly lobbying for 500 as it is at tribal casino's in the state) to limit competition? There are over 100 so-called "mini" casino's in Washington. That's limiting competition?

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awesome

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ppl need to do some research before expressing utterly unfounded opinions.

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People need to read posts more carefully before running their mouths about how I am spouting off unfounded opinions.

Re-read my post. I didn't say this was why I thought Colma did it, I said it was why I thought the TYPICAL state/town did it. At no point in time did I say it was why Colma did it, nor did I insinuate that it was fact.

Do you think the state of Washington had a 10, then 25, then 100$ cap (now 200, and constantly lobbying for 500 as it is at tribal casino's in the state) to limit competition? There are over 100 so-called "mini" casino's in Washington. That's limiting competition?

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this thread is about lucky chances in colma, california. leaky eye asked why this law was passed that has now affected lucky chances and patrons who wish to gamble there. you gave him irrelevant speculation concerning casinos not named lucky chances, in towns not named colma, in states not named california; i gave him links to the correct answer.

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The top section?
I haven't been in a few weeks, and now I'm sorry I've been neglecting poor LC.
I'm actually in Berkeley too. What are you doing here? Do all you bay-ers every have a home game? Can I come? I don't have any real poker friends only imaginary ones. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I am also another Bay-Areaite in search of a home game. If anyone knows a game with open spots, please PM me.

Thanks in advance.

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$40-$200 spread is a great game. I played it there yesterday. Nobody has a clue. Problem is it's not going to last in its current format.

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FWIW, they've dropped the blinds down to 2/3/5. It's still a fantastic game and a brutal structure, but it was playing slightly smaller than a really timid 40/80 game would.

There's nothing more fun than watching some NL putz coldcall 200 in LP hoping to outplay people with thunderous minraises.

scrub

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thunderous minraises

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Awesome; I'm totally stealing this for all my future minraise-related remarks.

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ppl need to do some research before expressing utterly unfounded opinions.

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People need to read posts more carefully before running their mouths about how I am spouting off unfounded opinions.

Re-read my post. I didn't say this was why I thought Colma did it, I said it was why I thought the TYPICAL state/town did it. At no point in time did I say it was why Colma did it, nor did I insinuate that it was fact.

Do you think the state of Washington had a 10, then 25, then 100$ cap (now 200, and constantly lobbying for 500 as it is at tribal casino's in the state) to limit competition? There are over 100 so-called "mini" casino's in Washington. That's limiting competition?

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this thread is about lucky chances in colma, california. leaky eye asked why this law was passed that has now affected lucky chances and patrons who wish to gamble there. you gave him irrelevant speculation concerning casinos not named lucky chances, in towns not named colma, in states not named california; i gave him links to the correct answer.

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I do not understand why towns want this kind of law. What is the driving force behind the politicians who pass it?

And in a town like Colma can't Lucky Chances just corrupt it or cheat? What is their malfunction?

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I love when people are assholes for no reason.