Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

Hi all,

I know the proper play is normally to fast play your trips (especially in lower limits), but are there occasions when it's ok to sneak in a little more money to the turn with a slow play?

Examples would include a rainbow flop so there are no flush draws out there.

Last night I decided to slow play a flop of 998 rainbow (holding A9), J ended up coming and someone pushed all-in w/ QT. I was able to lay down my hand, but was still disgusted with myself for not fast-playing it like I do 95% of the time.

Thoughts?

If that 8 wasn't there (say, 993 rainbow), would it have been worth slow playing?

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

i think i slowplayed once

AA on a AA5 board

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

Let's say you have 78 in BB, UTG raises and get like 4 callers. You call. The flop comes 772 rainbow. Then it's OK to try a checkraise. (if c/r suits to slowplay in your definition).

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Or if you are HU against a bluff-maniac with position, then you can call flop and turn and pull the trigger on the river on a draw free board.

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

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i think i slowplayed once

AA on a AA5 board

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Of course you lost when the K and Q hit the turn and river and villain turned over his JT for the royal flush, right?

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

I think the most important thing to know about slowplaying is that other people do it.

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

The biggest problem with slowplaying is that people do it at the wrong times with the wrong information. It steadily becomes more correct to slowplay as you narrow your opponents hand ranges down in comparison with the texture of the board.

Without any reads, i only slowplay when the board has no draws. E.G., you hold A9 on a board of 992r.

I will tax if there is any draw out there, unless i flop a complete monster.

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

Why not charge the draws even if you flopped a lock, they don't know you have done that...

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Without any reads, i only slowplay when the board has no draws. E.G., you hold A9 on a board of 992r.


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Under what circumstance will a villain who would have folded to your flop bet call your turn bet? An overpair calls your flop bet (good), a 9 with a bad kicker calls your flop bet (better), an idiot with any pair might call your flop bet (best). AK, et al folds (so what they were folding anyway).

By checking you give a free card (not recommended), now a straight or flush draw might get frisky. The turn could give that overpair a full house. What do you do if the turn is a J and villain pushes? You probably have to call there, but you would have more information if you bet the flop.

Re: Ever OK to slow-play trips?
 

depending on my kicker/position/opponents, i'll sometimes play open trips passively...that is checking and calling. it's really not that great of a hand cause usually the only time you get action is when you're behind. it's too easy for someone to (correctly) put you on a hand that beats them and fold.

playing it passively is not the same as slowplaying since you think you're ahead when you slowplay. you play passively when your hand is mediocre and you want to exercise some pot control.

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I know this is being results oriented, but every time I flop trips in an unraised pot, someone with a small pocket pair turns a full house on me and I lose my stack with A9 on a board of 9926 rainbow to 66.

In all seriousness my observation is that the morons at Party $25 and $50 6-max have a severe case of I don't beleive you flopped trips-itis and they will not only call with draws, but with pocket pairs fishing for the boat and even overcards and bare aces. Just bet it and they will call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Flopped KK6 with KT from the big blind. I potted the flop and got TWO callers turn was an 8 and I potted it again and they both called. River was a 4, I bet 1/2 pot, first guy folds, second guy min-raises. I made the crying call even though I knew I was beat, fully expecting to be shown 66,AK,KQ, or KJ-nope the idiot had 44. He called a PSB on two streets with an underpair to the board drawing to two outs at best. If they are willing to call with crap like this, make them pay.