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EuroBet No Longer a Party Skin?
This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up?
EDIT - Empire and Euro share games with each other, but not Party. I think this is shitty. |
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This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up? [/ QUOTE ] Party has just bent over all of its marketing partners. All of the fish go through Party. The pros use other skins where they get rakeback. The pros will all have to move to Party to play against fish and they will no longer get rakeback. All the other skins get hosed. |
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it's the end of the world as we know it
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[ QUOTE ] This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up? [/ QUOTE ] Party has just bent over all of its marketing partners. All of the fish go through Party. The pros use other skins where they get rakeback. The pros will all have to move to Party to play against fish and they will no longer get rakeback. All the other skins get hosed. [/ QUOTE ] Is this for real!?? -Scott |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up? [/ QUOTE ] Party has just bent over all of its marketing partners. All of the fish go through Party. The pros use other skins where they get rakeback. The pros will all have to move to Party to play against fish and they will no longer get rakeback. All the other skins get hosed. [/ QUOTE ] Is this for real!?? -Scott [/ QUOTE ] It looks like it. all games at Empire and Party are completly different. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up? [/ QUOTE ] Party has just bent over all of its marketing partners. All of the fish go through Party. The pros use other skins where they get rakeback. The pros will all have to move to Party to play against fish and they will no longer get rakeback. All the other skins get hosed. [/ QUOTE ] Is this for real!?? -Scott [/ QUOTE ] It looks like it. all games at Empire and Party are completly different. [/ QUOTE ] Looks like I have to get off my ass now and sign up for a Party account really quick. -Scott |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is weird. The higher limit holdem games on Eurobet are no longer the same as on Party. On the other hand, they now have 50/100 and 100/200. Does anyone know what's up? [/ QUOTE ] Party has just bent over all of its marketing partners. All of the fish go through Party. The pros use other skins where they get rakeback. The pros will all have to move to Party to play against fish and they will no longer get rakeback. All the other skins get hosed. [/ QUOTE ] Is this for real!?? -Scott [/ QUOTE ] It looks like it. all games at Empire and Party are completly different. [/ QUOTE ] Looks like I have to get off my ass now and sign up for a Party account really quick. -Scott [/ QUOTE ] you may want to wait a little bit and see if anyone can provide a similar service on party. |
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You can now 8 table on Partypoker. With one account!
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I\'m pretty sure its true
The table numbers are different, the games on Eurobet are not the same as Party and not to mention pretty much all the other tables I seen... the avg pots tend to be higher on Party than on Eurobet.
Al the list of games for Eurobet have shrunk down too SITE LIMIT / TABLES Party 30-60 = 16 Euro 30-60 = 5 <--- none are full Party 20-40 = 19 Euro 20-40 = 5 <--- none are full Party 3-6 = 50 + Euro 3-6 = 29 Both these sites which look so similar are now different. Now its time for the math boys to do some math....... Is it more profitable to playin tougher games with Rakeback or play in easier games with No Rakeback....... |
Re: EuroBet No Longer a Party Skin?
you may want to wait a little bit and see if anyone can provide a similar service on party.
If no one is providing that service already, there is 0 chance one will suddenly become available. -Scott |
Re: EuroBet No Longer a Party Skin?
kickboxer
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Re: I\'m pretty sure its true
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The table numbers are different, the games on Eurobet are not the same as Party and not to mention pretty much all the other tables I seen... the avg pots tend to be higher on Party than on Eurobet. Al the list of games for Eurobet have shrunk down too SITE LIMIT / TABLES Party 30-60 = 16 Euro 30-60 = 5 <--- none are full Party 20-40 = 19 Euro 20-40 = 5 <--- none are full Party 3-6 = 50 + Euro 3-6 = 29 Both these sites which look so similar are now different. Now its time for the math boys to do some math....... Is it more profitable to playin tougher games with Rakeback or play in easier games with No Rakeback....... [/ QUOTE ] How much is rakeback in BB/100? I think rakeback is nice to have, but IMO having softer games is more important. |
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Re: I\'m pretty sure its true
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[ QUOTE ] The table numbers are different, the games on Eurobet are not the same as Party and not to mention pretty much all the other tables I seen... the avg pots tend to be higher on Party than on Eurobet. Al the list of games for Eurobet have shrunk down too SITE LIMIT / TABLES Party 30-60 = 16 Euro 30-60 = 5 <--- none are full Party 20-40 = 19 Euro 20-40 = 5 <--- none are full Party 3-6 = 50 + Euro 3-6 = 29 Both these sites which look so similar are now different. Now its time for the math boys to do some math....... Is it more profitable to playin tougher games with Rakeback or play in easier games with No Rakeback....... [/ QUOTE ] How much is rakeback in BB/100? I think rakeback is nice to have, but IMO having softer games is more important. [/ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. |
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it's the end of the world as we know it [/ QUOTE ] basically |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The table numbers are different, the games on Eurobet are not the same as Party and not to mention pretty much all the other tables I seen... the avg pots tend to be higher on Party than on Eurobet. Al the list of games for Eurobet have shrunk down too SITE LIMIT / TABLES Party 30-60 = 16 Euro 30-60 = 5 <--- none are full Party 20-40 = 19 Euro 20-40 = 5 <--- none are full Party 3-6 = 50 + Euro 3-6 = 29 Both these sites which look so similar are now different. Now its time for the math boys to do some math....... Is it more profitable to playin tougher games with Rakeback or play in easier games with No Rakeback....... [/ QUOTE ] How much is rakeback in BB/100? I think rakeback is nice to have, but IMO having softer games is more important. [/ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] I know we're talking about a fair amount of $$$, I'm just saying that playing against weak opponents is probably worth more. |
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in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. |
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[ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. |
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this brightened up my day though
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Re: I\'m pretty sure its true
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. [/ QUOTE ] bug, you seem to be a solid player. Maybe you will make a little less now, whatever. This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys. |
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"This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys."
in other words about 95% of posters here. including me. |
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A more serious point to consider: what may very easily be going on right now.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. [/ QUOTE ] bug, you seem to be a solid player. Maybe you will make a little less now, whatever. This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] It may not be the end of the world, but I really don't understand your cavalier attitude either. Are you saying losing tens of thousands of dollars per year in rakeback doesn't matter to "solid" players? If so, this is BS. Yeah, it may only be 10% or 5% of one's annual income, but it's still a solid chunk of cash that I'd much rather have than have to give up. |
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Anybody want to do 15k Empire for Party?
I guess I'm gonna have to get a local phone number this week so I can finally set up netteller. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. [/ QUOTE ] bug, you seem to be a solid player. Maybe you will make a little less now, whatever. This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] It may not be the end of the world, but I really don't understand your cavalier attitude either. Are you saying losing tens of thousands of dollars per year in rakeback doesn't matter to "solid" players? If so, this is BS. Yeah, it may only be 10% or 5% of one's annual income, but it's still a solid chunk of cash that I'd much rather have than have to give up. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you'd rather have it. I did not say players weren't affected or that it wasn't bad for solid players. Just that it wasn't a HUGE issue as has been made of it.Look at the threads. All over the place. "OMGF, INTERNET POKER IS OVER" "OMFG, WORST DAY EVER" "POKER IS DEAD" "LIFE AS WE KNOW IT IS OVER" etc. As I've said already, this level of reaction is only appropriate for a certain group of players. Looking at the threads today, I would have thought a bill making it illegal to play poker online in the US was passed and all major ISPs were blocking access to poker sites or something. |
More pressing issue...
is that i cannot cash out of eurobet...but no fear, support had teh following to say:
Dear Client, Thank you for contacting us, Please be advised that the poker cashier is unavailable at the moment. We do apologise for the inconvenience caused. We have informed our technicians and they are investigating the problem. All the balances will be settled within 48 hours. Once again we apologise for the inconvenience caused. Kind regards Marcos Eurobet Customer Services MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE: i tried to move money from my poker account to my sportsbook account but the error message said, "transaction unsuccessful" what does this mean and how do i transfer money? thanks Barron )_______________ well, not quite ready to be too worried but i would like the cash i have there Barron |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. [/ QUOTE ] bug, you seem to be a solid player. Maybe you will make a little less now, whatever. This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] I wonder if some of the sub-1 bb/100 players who now no longer get rakeback will now be unable to deal with the swings and stop playing. this should have the effect of making the games better. it will hurt more good players than bad ones. also a lot of the good short limit players might move to other sites to play bigger. so overall I'd imagine the the quality of games will go up, which will combat the rakeback thing to an extent. a decent multi-tabling 20 or 30 player should only lose 10-20% of his earn. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] in 10/20 6 max it was worth about ~$.10/hand, which comes out to .5BB/100. pretty large. [/ QUOTE ] You guys are overreacting. Party has added new features you can use to make extra money to make up for not having rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] thanks D, that plus dealing tips were a huge boost to my morale. I'm gonna go get really wasted on the strip now and reassess my life. [/ QUOTE ] bug, you seem to be a solid player. Maybe you will make a little less now, whatever. This is only a huge issue imo for medicore and poor multi-tabler monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] It may not be the end of the world, but I really don't understand your cavalier attitude either. Are you saying losing tens of thousands of dollars per year in rakeback doesn't matter to "solid" players? If so, this is BS. Yeah, it may only be 10% or 5% of one's annual income, but it's still a solid chunk of cash that I'd much rather have than have to give up. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you'd rather have it. I did not say players weren't affected or that it wasn't bad for solid players. Just that it wasn't a HUGE issue as has been made of it.Look at the threads. All over the place. "OMGF, INTERNET POKER IS OVER" "OMFG, WORST DAY EVER" "POKER IS DEAD" "LIFE AS WE KNOW IT IS OVER" etc. As I've said already, this level of reaction is only appropriate for a certain group of players. Looking at the threads today, I would have thought a bill making it illegal to play poker online in the US was passed and all major ISPs were blocking access to poker sites or something. [/ QUOTE ] I think there is a correlation going on here that causes the same people who panic at this stuff to be the marginally winning poker players. "Oh sh*t, the third [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] just hit the board. I better check-call the river with my set of As." |
Need RakeBack on Party? *DELETED*
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I am an affiliate on Party. Please e-mail me or send me an IM on AIM- Rogermnj to get more info. I will try to help some of you out. Roger- [/ QUOTE ] Looks like we need a skeleton crew of mods to deal with the vultures. Luckily, party will end up freezing your affiliate account anyway. |
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[ QUOTE ] I am an affiliate on Party. Please e-mail me or send me an IM on AIM- Rogermnj to get more info. I will try to help some of you out. Roger- [/ QUOTE ] Looks like we need a skeleton crew of mods to deal with the vultures. Luckily, party will end up freezing your affiliate account anyway. [/ QUOTE ] I hate to say it, but he's offering a service at this point |
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I wouldn't feel the least bit safe signing up with a Party affl at this point. All clues point towards them not supporting rakeback in the least.
I guess I'm lucky enough, in that I don't count on rakeback for my income. I'll probably see what things are like at Eurobet, and then if it really sucks, move to party. Seems like if you don't blow, there's money to be made in either spot (I may blow though...). |
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I wonder if some of the sub-1 bb/100 players who now no longer get rakeback will now be unable to deal with the swings and stop playing. this should have the effect of making the games better. it will hurt more good players than bad ones.
Agreed. I think this will make the games better for most of us. The sub-1BB players (assuming a WR >0 ) that quit still lowers the overall number of winning players we'll run in to at the tables. And if you were to look at the distribution of winning players, the VAST majority would fall in to the sub-1 BB WR. So theoretically, if this does indeed reduce the number of those players, it might have the effect of dramatically reducing the number of winning players we run in to at the tables. -Scott |
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I wouldn't feel the least bit safe signing up with a Party affl at this point. All clues point towards them not supporting rakeback in the least. I guess I'm lucky enough, in that I don't count on rakeback for my income. I'll probably see what things are like at Eurobet, and then if it really sucks, move to party. Seems like if you don't blow, there's money to be made in either spot (I may blow though...). [/ QUOTE ] I agree 100% |
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I wonder if some of the sub-1 bb/100 players who now no longer get rakeback will now be unable to deal with the swings and stop playing. this should have the effect of making the games better. it will hurt more good players than bad ones. Agreed. I think this will make the games better for most of us. The sub-1BB players (assuming a WR >0 ) that quit still lowers the overall number of winning players we'll run in to at the tables. And if you were to look at the distribution of winning players, the VAST majority would fall in to the sub-1 BB WR. So theoretically, if this does indeed reduce the number of those players, it might have the effect of dramatically reducing the number of winning players we run in to at the tables. -Scott [/ QUOTE ] You don't make money from players unless you are SIGNIFICANTLY better than them... Not so specifically I think the Formula is (Rakeperhand-Rakebackperhand) to some function of variance. For example: If you are A 3BB/100 player sitting at a table with 9 people who "normally" BREAKEVEN. I would bet that the only one making money from this table will be PARTY. (well maybe you eeeeek out some in this example, but no way you continue to make 3BB/100 like you would if there were 2 or 3 LOSING players at the table. |
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is that i cannot cash out of eurobet...but no fear, support had teh following to say: Dear Client, Thank you for contacting us, Please be advised that the poker cashier is unavailable at the moment. We do apologise for the inconvenience caused. We have informed our technicians and they are investigating the problem. All the balances will be settled within 48 hours. Once again we apologise for the inconvenience caused. Kind regards Marcos Eurobet Customer Services MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE: i tried to move money from my poker account to my sportsbook account but the error message said, "transaction unsuccessful" what does this mean and how do i transfer money? thanks Barron )_______________ well, not quite ready to be too worried but i would like the cash i have there Barron [/ QUOTE ] I just encountered the same problem. Was looking to play some 15/30, and there were 5 games, all terrible. That just sucks. lf |
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[ QUOTE ] I wonder if some of the sub-1 bb/100 players who now no longer get rakeback will now be unable to deal with the swings and stop playing. this should have the effect of making the games better. it will hurt more good players than bad ones. Agreed. I think this will make the games better for most of us. The sub-1BB players (assuming a WR >0 ) that quit still lowers the overall number of winning players we'll run in to at the tables. And if you were to look at the distribution of winning players, the VAST majority would fall in to the sub-1 BB WR. So theoretically, if this does indeed reduce the number of those players, it might have the effect of dramatically reducing the number of winning players we run in to at the tables. -Scott [/ QUOTE ] You don't make money from players unless you are SIGNIFICANTLY better than them... Not so specifically I think the Formula is (Rakeperhand-Rakebackperhand) to some function of variance. For example: If you are A 3BB/100 player sitting at a table with 9 people who "normally" BREAKEVEN. I would bet that the only one making money from this table will be PARTY. (well maybe you eeeeek out some in this example, but no way you continue to make 3BB/100 like you would if there were 2 or 3 LOSING players at the table. [/ QUOTE ] well, you're wrong (about WR 3 vs WR 0). And what's funny, is you're only helping to strengthen my statement. If many of the lower level WINNING players quit playing, then on average, I'll be playing more LOSING players. Hence, I will have a greater edge. -Scott |
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is that i cannot cash out of eurobet...but no fear, support had teh following to say: Dear Client, Thank you for contacting us, Please be advised that the poker cashier is unavailable at the moment. We do apologise for the inconvenience caused. We have informed our technicians and they are investigating the problem. All the balances will be settled within 48 hours. Once again we apologise for the inconvenience caused. Kind regards Marcos Eurobet Customer Services MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE: i tried to move money from my poker account to my sportsbook account but the error message said, "transaction unsuccessful" what does this mean and how do i transfer money? thanks Barron )_______________ well, not quite ready to be too worried but i would like the cash i have there Barron [/ QUOTE ] Funny how I can't get my money out of Empire either (as well as Eurobet). I just want some money to play. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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