what are your stats?
 

Limit, number of hands, VP$IP, PF Raise, AF-TOT, and big bets/100 won / lost. Feel free to include anything else.

I'm at 1,600 hands
Limit = 2/4
VP$IP = 23.5
PF Raise = 8.25
AF-TOT = 1.87
(3.25) bb/100 hands

Re: what are your stats?
 

These are just from my Party hands

I'm at 5,386 hands
Limit = 2/4
VP$IP = 18.85
PF Raise = 10.17
AF-TOT = 1.46 (including PF) 2.05 (without PF)
4.26 bb/100 hands
Went to Showdown 33.20%
Won $ At SD: 59.70%

I'd put the blind steal stuff, but Im kind of unsure how it knows when you are stealing blinds and when you are just raising your hand.

Here's a stat that I have been actually interested in:

Now I understand that everyone will lose money in the blinds, but is it possible to see how much you are losing so you know if you are losing too much or not?

Of course I know this sample is way too small so it's probally not worth even looking at except for fun sake.

Re: what are your stats?
 

party 5/10

12.5k hands
VP$IP- 15.5
PF raise- 12
AF-TOT- 3.18
1.04bb/100

Re: what are your stats?
 

This mean nothing. What is this? 2 days of playing?

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this is a good thread. let's all state stats that occured during our best streaks ever that have no relevance.

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this is a good thread. let's all state stats that occured during our best streaks ever that have no relevance.

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Last night my bb/100 was .04

Re: what are your stats?
 

i'm at like 30,000 hands of 5/10 at 2.5bb/100 but i'd be very happy if my real bb/100 was 1.5-2. i haven't had a real extreme downswing since i started this sample ( this is just since november 4th ) so i'm sure it's much lower.

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4.26 bb/100 hands
Went to Showdown 33.20%
Won $ At SD: 59.70%

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Don't expect this to continue...

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I wasnt, thanks.

But if somehow it does due to some strange occurance, you will be the first I will let know. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I wasnt, thanks.

But if somehow it does due to some strange occurance, you will be the first I will let know. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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not happening, shut up.

Re: what are your stats?
 

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I wasnt, thanks.

But if somehow it does due to some strange occurance, you will be the first I will let know. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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not happening, shut up.

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I'll have to let you know as well then. Maybe I'll win the lottery also while Im at it.

You need to chill out a little bit. For a moderated forum this one sure is full of people who have nothing better to do than create OWP's.

When someone creates a OWP just for the purpose of disagreeing with someone it's useless because I (and other people) will be much less likely to see it as crediable as someone who either actually puts some thought into it, or someone who is respected (like a professional, if they give a OWP we'd probally all take it seriously).

As far as the BB/100 rate, you guys are posting a lot on the small stakes board, so I have to imagine you are mainly playing small stakes. Since you are mainly playing small stakes, you probally are not playing the greatest small stakes game because otherwise you would be playing medium stakes.

Which means unless you have some information or knowledge to support your claim (which you fail to include here), your comment is useless because as far as playing the game you probally are not all that diffrent from me.

I have read articles on the web and posts on other forums so I know the idea that you wont make 4 BB / 100 in the long run is out there.

I also know that in my case Ive gotten extremely lucky to find the right sort of bad players and have gotten the cards at the same time. (although Ive lost plenty of money as well due to leaks in my play that Ive corrected otherwise my rate would be higher) So lots of lucky things have happened in a short amount of time. It's almost depressing because I have to imagine Im going to have a horrible time playing poker at some time to make up for it.

Id be more interested if there was someone who's been playing for longer than a few years, and does well at some 150/300 game somewhere. It would be interesting to see how they did when they played 2/4 (or if they played it now).

So again, if you are going to post a comment like this I suggest you think of something intelligent to go along with it or else dont waste your time. Someone might not like that I bothered to say that, but then they ought to talk to you as well. And you may be correct in assuming that my win rate is crazy, but since you provide no reasoning for why you feel that way, Im not going to take it seriously.

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you better MYOB before i give you HIV and LOL

Re: what are your stats?
 

Hmmmm. Is there an age limit on this site?

If you continue this I will complain. I know that Ive been rude to certain people since I got here and they should complain about me as well I suppose, but you are taking it to a whole new retarded level.

Re: what are your stats?
 

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Limit, number of hands, VP$IP, PF Raise, AF-TOT, and big bets/100 won / lost. Feel free to include anything else.

I'm at 1,600 hands
Limit = 2/4
VP$IP = 23.5
PF Raise = 8.25
AF-TOT = 1.87
(3.25) bb/100 hands

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You will lose that money back playing this way.

Re: what are your stats?
 

He is losing money. () denotes a negative amount.

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yeah you're right, you're just better than everyone else who posts on here.

the main thing you need to learn before you stop being a dumb dumb is that the majority of internet pros would probably rather play smallish stakes ( and by that i mean 5-10 up to 20-40 ) than larger stakes for reasons that i'm sure are a mystery to you.

Re: what are your stats?
 

also let me reitterate:

YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT LESS THAN 6000 HANDS

Re: what are your stats?
 

I don't have stats for all my hands, but of the 38,788 hands I have recorded in Pokertracker at Party 2/4, 3/6, and 5/10:

VP$IP - 19.29
PF Raise - 11.22
Agg Factor - 1.41 (1.91 if you remove preflop)

-McGee

Re: what are your stats?
 

Nope, never said I was better than anyone but at least I dont waste my time posting in other peoples threads just for the purpose of being negative.

Your last sentence is yet another assumption based on some facts that you just have no idea about. And I wasnt talking about "Internet Pros", I was talking about real professional players that have enough skill to play at a much higher level...

Most "internet pros" are not good enough to play anything above 20-40, and they have no need to because there is plenty of money to be made at that level and below for most of them it's not like they were making 60K or more in their real jobs anyway.

Dude, Im almost sure that you probally spend so much time being a moron and stroking your own ego and so less time actually observing what people are up to (so you can take their money), that you probally are a weak poker player anyway.

If you think you are better than me, actually provide some discussion instead of your moronic ramblings, as well as your last sentence which is little more than ambigious obvious nonsense. You are probally a slow reader anyway so Im sure you cant keep up.

Re: what are your stats?
 

First of what does "u will lose that money back if u keep playing this way mean?" The () indicates negative not positive. I am always open to helpful critique but it is only 1600 hands, many of the tables were loose passive allowing me to play a few extras, and I have negative win rates with AK(.35), AQ(.80), QQ(1.09), and JJ(5.3). The other big hands haven't done very well but they're up. Doesn't take many bad beats to ruin your bb/hand with big hands when you only have 6-15 hands of each of them. My old poker tracker data was for 15/30 for late 03 and 04 and I was doing quite well playing at least as loose as the 2/4 games, but I've started tightening up a bit recently.

If you have some critique and would like to give a better explanation than "if u do that" I'm open to it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: what are your stats?
 

I'm at 29 hands
Limit = 100/200
VP$IP = 17.24
PF Raise = 13.79
AF-TOT = 2.33
33.42 bb/100 hands

Re: what are your stats?
 

What the hell is OWP?

Since you want a reason why your win rate is crazy, I'll just say that tons of people here that are playing high limits agree that 4BB/100 is unsustainable long-term at $2/4. Plenty of them made 2BB/100.

Also you can be winning at a pretty high rate when you decide to move up. Just because I'm winning 4BB/100 when I start playing higher doesn;t mean 4BB/100 is my "true" winrate.

Part of the problem evaluating winrates is that they're nonconstant. Just be happy with anything >0.

Re: what are your stats?
 

35/26/35

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Nope, never said I was better than anyone but at least I dont waste my time posting in other peoples threads just for the purpose of being negative.

Your last sentence is yet another assumption based on some facts that you just have no idea about. And I wasnt talking about "Internet Pros", I was talking about real professional players that have enough skill to play at a much higher level...

Most "internet pros" are not good enough to play anything above 20-40, and they have no need to because there is plenty of money to be made at that level and below for most of them it's not like they were making 60K or more in their real jobs anyway.

Dude, Im almost sure that you probally spend so much time being a moron and stroking your own ego and so less time actually observing what people are up to (so you can take their money), that you probally are a weak poker player anyway.

If you think you are better than me, actually provide some discussion instead of your moronic ramblings, as well as your last sentence which is little more than ambigious obvious nonsense. You are probally a slow reader anyway so Im sure you cant keep up.

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ok i am officially sure that you are

1) the dumbest poster not talking about sites conspiring to rig games

2) the worst judge of character via a messageboard of all time

please do the world a favor. quit poker and start 8 tabling solitaire.

Re: what are your stats?
 

here are mine...are they good? how can i improve? my winrate is the same in the long run, actually a little bit higher, i guess ive been running bad.

http://baronzeus.com/goodrun.gif

PS there's a forum for this stuff. Brags, beats, and variance.

Re: what are your stats?
 

Nope, I didnt just assume anything.

First of all from your posts I figured you were some immature punk age 18-22. (and no Im not saying everyone that age is immature)

And then I read your website: Adam22

Im sure you dont see it because you are blind, but anyone else would get a big kick out of it because it's so moronic.... (or they will be bored because anyone who spends time stroking his own ego like that is lame)

Re: what are your stats?
 

Stick to NL2000, you suck at the others.

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Now I understand that everyone will lose money in the blinds, but is it possible to see how much you are losing so you know if you are losing too much or not?


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Try the filters section in pokertracker (on General screen) and click the "In a Blind" button, or the Positions tab and look at the ones marked BB and SB. Oh and play more hands before it really means anything.

Enjoy!

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I'm at 29 hands
Limit = 100/200
VP$IP = 17.24
PF Raise = 13.79
AF-TOT = 2.33
33.42 bb/100 hands

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Great job!

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Nope, I didnt just assume anything.

First of all from your posts I figured you were some immature punk age 18-22. (and no Im not saying everyone that age is immature)

And then I read your website: Adam22

Im sure you dont see it because you are blind, but anyone else would get a big kick out of it because it's so moronic.... (or they will be bored because anyone who spends time stroking his own ego like that is lame)

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i think you're right and i would much rather read your website which i assume focuses entirely on 6000 hand win rate essays.

you need to face it that you have posted the single stupidest thing EVER on this board and no one will ever forgive you for it.

Re: what are your stats?
 

Good you are now going on my ignore list, I suggest you do the same.

Re: what are your stats?
 

I knew enough to do that already.

But assuming at some point I did have enough hands I was wondering if there was some rate that's more acceptable than not. (we know it's going to be negative)

For example if you defend your blind to much you'll probally lose more money than you should. If you dont defend your blind enough you'll probally lose more than you should (because you wont recoup enough money to make up for what you paid for the blinds).

I assume in a tighter game where you dont have open limpers this would be a bigger deal? (because most of the hands you will play will be either in the blinds or against the blinds)

I read on billrini or somewhere that if your loss rate was slightly lower than double your biggest position win rate that's actually pretty normal (at least for the bigblind).

Obviously my sample is too small so it's not even worth looking at. (actually I have about 15,000 other hands in other databases, but they are from all diffrent sites, most of which play a lot diffrent than Party, and even that's not a huge amount)

Re: what are your stats?
 

nobody is reading your post and even if they were it would be because they want to know what the thought process of a retarded person is like.

Re: what are your stats?
 

don't we have mods to lock threads like these?

Re: what are your stats?
 

I dont know what you said, I have the ignore turned on.

Have a nice day!

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don't we have mods to lock threads like these?

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Apparently they are all still asleep from leftowver Turkey.

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This is my all-time favorite post.

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here are mine...are they good? how can i improve? my winrate is the same in the long run, actually a little bit higher, i guess ive been running bad.

http://baronzeus.com/goodrun.gif

PS there's a forum for this stuff. Brags, beats, and variance.

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The rake is killing you.