preflop yes or no?
 

Canterbury 30/60 (8 handed)
MP opens. He is running SUPER good and playing almost any 2 cards. literally. CO 3 bets. He likes to get frisky on occassion, especially with position. His range could be quite wide here. Neither plays particularly well postflop. Button folds. BB here is a MASSIVE fish and plays bad. I am in the SB with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. yes or no?

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no thx.

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I'm a no, but I play too tight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If I'm feeling flush I'd cap it up cuz my hand is probably about as good as theirs and I can outplay them postflop. If I was needing money I'd fold. KTs it would be an easy call given the descriptions of the players. QTs a maybe. JTs similarly.

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5bet cap IIRC

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Nope.

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Whats the cap?

If its 4 bets, cap that mother [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

If its 5, fold.

Either way its probably close. I'd honestly prefer to be up against a narrower range of hands preflop, as it makes post flop much easier. If the opponents are as horrible as you said, however, I think this is only a question of variance, and is probably neutral in terms of EV. Who knows...

lf

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fold

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Is there a "hell no" option?

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Offer to sell your hand to BB for $5 and a beer. If he refuses, fold.

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fold why invest 3 bets out of position with JTs. and it is possible even for bad players to pick up real hands, and to reraise. i think this has neg ev, especially out of position.

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This is one of those hands that tempts against weak opposition, but I dont think your postflop edge could be enough because you have the twin evils of being out of position and having a hand that cant win a showdown unimproved.