How would you react? B&M Confrontation last night
 

I like to think that I am very respectful at the poker tables but i dont care if i was in a church, if someone says something i dont like i react.

Last night i am in the middle of my third S&G (was going to be my last). I am short stacked, weak player raises from mid pos, I see 88, so I move all in for my remaining chips. He flips over KQo, he catches a Q on the river. He jumps up, leans over the table and says Bye Bye while waiving his hand in my face. I say "what did you say?" he repeats it. My response is "Go FCK Yourself" He jumps up out of his seat and starts talking like a punk, Ill whip your ass yada yada. I fire back some verbal insults. It def was a scene.

I am curious how would you react if someone did that to you?

I am not looking for a debate on whether I reacted wrong or not, I would most likely react the same if it ever happened again. Just curious of our reaction.

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I would just repeat his action back to him. Wave and say Bye Bye. Then wish the rest of the table good luck. Take the high road and it'll be even more frusterating to him.

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I would smile, walk over, shake his hand, and wish him good luck. I'd show him what it's like to be a gentleman. Never understimate the power of a good example. Even if it doesn't change his behavior, I won't have to make a post about how I told somebody to go f*ck himself.

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I find it hard to believe that this guy did this out of nowhere. Do you two have a history?

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Dude was a typical punk - he was trying to provoke you, hoping you'd escalate so he can be a big man in public.

What I'd do for better or worse when dude gets in my face is is to mock him ("Bwyeeee BWYEEEE??? What is this, high school?"), tell the rest of the table "the rest of you, good luck," and immediately pivot and walk. Let little dude look like an idiot screaming to himself about kicking asses.

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In my opinion, when two people are having a verbal argument in any public place (and the tamer the place, like a poker room, the more emphasized this is), they both look like idiots regardless of what they are fighting about and who is right/wrong.

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I would smile, walk over, shake his hand, and wish him good luck. I'd show him what it's like to be a gentleman. Never understimate the power of a good example. Even if it doesn't change his behavior, I won't have to make a post about how I told somebody to go f*ck himself.

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But what if you go to shake his hand and then he pulls away at the last moment and slicks his hair back? Can you really risk it?

No. You can't.

The only option is to kill his whole family, his families friends, and even the people that owe him money. Then disappear.

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I find it hard to believe that this guy did this out of nowhere. Do you two have a history?

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No. I've never seen him before. I play their all the time so I know all the regulars. He did not react that way to anyone else in previous hands. I myself was quiet as a mouse up to that point. Without knowing me, (jakethebake can vouch) I am not a boisterous person by any means, especially when playing poker. I keep to myself at the tables other than some friendly chit chat now and then.

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I would smile, walk over, shake his hand, and wish him good luck. I'd show him what it's like to be a gentleman. Never understimate the power of a good example. Even if it doesn't change his behavior, I won't have to make a post about how I told somebody to go f*ck himself.

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I don't know if I would go as far as to shake his hand (I'd probably pretend nothing happened Tommy style) but this is a great answer.

~ Rick

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"Mister, I have a feeling that one day, you and your whole family are going down."

Re: How would you react? B&M Confrontation last night
 

Two more points.

If you let every irritating thing in a card room actually irritate you, you would be irritated most of your time playing cards. This is -EV.

If you don't want to take Andy Fox's approach or the silent approach I mentioned in response, try this. Look right in his eye with your best "Al Pacino at the end of the first Godfather look" and walk away.

~ Rick

Re: How would you react? B&M Confrontation last night
 

On the ride home I thought of better ways to handle it. But going over an shaking his hand will never be an option for me. If he had just said bye bye, its one thing, sticking your hand in my face is another. It is something I don't tolerate.

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Tell him the Jerkstore called and they're running out of stock.

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Tell him the Jerkstore called and they're running out of stock.

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"Who cares? You're their best seller!"

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Tell him the Jerkstore called and they're running out of stock.

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"Who cares? You're their ALL-TIME best seller!"

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FYP

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If someone did this to me I would look at him in disgust, wish the rest of the table good luck, and walk away.

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I would smile, walk over, shake his hand, and wish him good luck. I'd show him what it's like to be a gentleman. Never understimate the power of a good example. Even if it doesn't change his behavior, I won't have to make a post about how I told somebody to go f*ck himself.

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But what if you go to shake his hand and then he pulls away at the last moment and slicks his hair back? Can you really risk it?

No. You can't.

The only option is to kill his whole family, his families friends, and even the people that owe him money. Then disappear.

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this isnt right. if you kill him, the people that owed him money now owe you money. you dont kill them until after they pay you. killing people that owe you money is -ev

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I find it hard to believe that this guy did this out of nowhere.

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You don't get out much, do you?
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I'd find it very tough to walk away without saying anything, and yet I know that is the best way to upset this guy, so this is a tough call and I wouldn't KNOW how I would react til it happened (hopefully never does).
Best thing to do though is keep it simple I think. Either walk away or just tell this dude to take a flying leap and then walk away.

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I would've LOLed really loud at him and then wished everyone else good luck and left. He'd look like the piece of [censored] he is.

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Tell him the Jerkstore called and they're running out of stock.

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"Who cares? You're their best seller!"

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Oh yeah? Well I had sex with your wife!

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I would've LOLed really loud at him and then wished everyone else good luck and left. He'd look like the piece of [censored] he is.

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Would you laugh, or actually spell out the letters "L O L" very loudly?

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I understand you doing it and I couldn't care less if you do or not. I also appreciate that this thread isn't about "standing up for yourself" or "being a female body part", it's an actual discussion of what to do.

I don't think there is anything to gain from causing the scene though. I would have left. Although the fact that you were eliminated allows you to do whatever you want without being concerned about what happens to the table.
This stuff happens at the table, and it will happen to you again. Next time you might not want to leave after the hand, and you might not want to upset anybody.

Last time I played 1/2NL, three guys get all in preflop for around equal sums of money, one has AA and two have KK. (pretty crazy hey?). Anywasys the guy with AA starts laughing and banging on the table, he stands up and starts yelling suits at the flop, he's making sure everyone knows what happened and how he's such an enormous favorite, and keeps laughing at the other players. I was impressed that they both said nothing, lost the pot, rebought and continued to play. I had to go but they were good players and they probably smashed the moron with aces over the next few hours.

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I would've LOLed really loud at him and then wished everyone else good luck and left. He'd look like the piece of [censored] he is.

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Would you laugh, or actually spell out the letters "L O L" very loudly?

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My original thought was to actually laugh, but yelling "EL OH EL" really loud in his face is probably even better.

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It is easy to be respectful when nobody is being disrespectful. He gave you a great opportunity to practice being respectful when it is difficult to be respectful and you passed it up. Next time take him up on his offer.

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I would have set him on fire I think. Maybe I would have severed his artery with a Spyderco Civilian, lecter style. (Closer please!)

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"Mister, I have a feeling that one day, you and your whole family are going down."

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or you could take a line from Frequency.

"You went down 30 years ago pal, you just don't know it yet."

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tell him he made a great play, but if he doesnt think that you are that great of a player, you would be more than happy to play some heads up 25/50 or 50/100 freeze outs with him. I saw some old dude do this to some punk kid at a 20/40 table once, and it was hilarious. It helps if you can also throw in the old guys line: "ive got 35 thousand in my pocket. if you want, lets go."

peace

john nickle

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Those types of incidents are the reason I have not been inside two B&M rooms in a year, although they are only twenty minutes away. Poker today, has attracted all kinds of scum. In one of the joints, the biggest jerk in the room is an off-duty cop.

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I like to think that I am very respectful at the poker tables but i dont care if i was in a church, if someone says something i dont like i react.

Last night i am in the middle of my third S&G (was going to be my last). I am short stacked, weak player raises from mid pos, I see 88, so I move all in for my remaining chips. He flips over KQo, he catches a Q on the river. He jumps up, leans over the table and says Bye Bye while waiving his hand in my face. I say "what did you say?" he repeats it. My response is "Go FCK Yourself" He jumps up out of his seat and starts talking like a punk, Ill whip your ass yada yada. I fire back some verbal insults. It def was a scene.

I am curious how would you react if someone did that to you?

I am not looking for a debate on whether I reacted wrong or not, I would most likely react the same if it ever happened again. Just curious of our reaction.

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You talkin' to me?
You talkin' to me?
You talkin' to me?
Then who the hell else are you talkin' to?
You talkin' to me?
Well, I'm the only one here.
Who do the f*ck do you think you're talking to?
Oh, yeah?
Ok.

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As long as the guy is reall a donk i challenge him to a variety of heads up no limit, limit, pot limit, spread limit, freezouts of every game imaginable. Then when i'm done i'll eat him.

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I would smile, walk over, shake his hand, and wish him good luck. I'd show him what it's like to be a gentleman. Never understimate the power of a good example. Even if it doesn't change his behavior, I won't have to make a post about how I told somebody to go f*ck himself.

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Tell him the Jerkstore called and they're running out of stock.

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"Who cares? You're their best seller!"

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Oh yeah? Well I had sex with your wife!

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My favorite thing about confrontations like this is, when they occasionaly come to blows the slap to punch ratio is normally through the roof

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Those types of incidents are the reason I have not been inside two B&M rooms in a year, although they are only twenty minutes away. Poker today, has attracted all kinds of scum.

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I posted a thead about this yesterday, it did not get much interest but the few times I have been to the local card room there was an incident every single time (none involving me). These incidents are more than enough to get a lot of players to walk out and never come back.

The Ultimate Retalliation to Unsportsmanlike Behavior
 

If this were a ring game, the correct strategy is the following:

Assuming you have some gas, you can "brew" up a good "out". Once you feel the gas filling your stomach, and the flatulence is ready.. grab your chips (assuming your enemy didn't take them all), walk towards the cage, but take the route that involves walking by him. Pause and wish the table good luck right when your back is to the victim. As you are saying good luck, push with all of your might and unload your weapon of mass destruction. If he accuses you of anything, deny everything. Act like you have absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Remind the table that "he who smelt it dealt it". You can even pretend that you are NOW starting to smell it and you are just as offended by the smell as him. If he physically attacks you, the "eye in the sky" will see you saying farewell to the table, then all of a sudden this mad man attacking you while your back is turned to him. This is a complete freeroll. Always eat a high fiber meal before you go to B+M card rooms so you can execute this tactic.

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If this were a ring game, the correct strategy is the following:

Assuming you have some gas, you can "brew" up a good "out". Once you feel the gas filling your stomach, and the flatulence is ready.. grab your chips (assuming your enemy didn't take them all), walk towards the cage, but take the route that involves walking by him. Pause and wish the table good luck right when your back is to the victim. As you are saying good luck, push with all of your might and unload your weapon of mass destruction. If he accuses you of anything, deny everything. Act like you have absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Remind the table that "he who smelt it dealt it". You can even pretend that you are NOW starting to smell it and you are just as offended by the smell as him. If he physically attacks you, the "eye in the sky" will see you saying farewell to the table, then all of a sudden this mad man attacking you while your back is turned to him. This is a complete freeroll. Always eat a high fiber meal before you go to B+M card rooms so you can execute this tactic.

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Don't you run the risk of sharting?

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you could always say:

"Stand up please, I want to kick you in the nuts"

Then do so.

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If you don't want to take Andy Fox's approach or the silent approach I mentioned in response, try this. Look right in his eye with your best "Al Pacino at the end of the first Godfather look" and walk away.

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Nice one. And the gun is hidden in which cubicle again?

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I like the "go f yourself" but yelling insults when he said he wants to kick your ass was over the line. I'm not going to let some [censored] piss in my cheerios. He was rude, you were ruder and he decided to escalate it again.

Simply stand there and wait for him to jump. Have a bemused expression on your face. He's not about to hit you. People that are going to hit you don't tell you so.