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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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"It's a cold world, babygirl..."

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to be popular in this thread.

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Learning 6max helps save puppies. You don't want to be a puppy-killer, do you?

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If you really don't want to play 6-max give the 1/2 9-max tables a try, I decided to clear this months bonus on them, and am finding them very enjoyable!

Low sample size I know, but I've done about 1k hands clearing the bonus, and I've found it plays much like the .5/1 game did before it was 6-maxed!

Mat

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Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but learning 6-max is a very idea.

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I read that learning 6max in linked to a cure for cancer; and rainbows.

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Sorry to hear that. I think it's been tough on a lot of players.

We criticize Party so much that it is only fair to give credit when they do something right. The immediate huge popularity of the new 6-max games shows that for once they have given many of their customers a really fun new choice.

That's supposed to be what it's all about.

You winning players just need to keep up with the fish. That's your job.

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Sorry to hear that. I think it's been tough on a lot of players.

We criticize Party so much that it is only fair to give credit when they do something right. The immediate huge popularity of the new 6-max games shows that for once they have given many of their customers a really fun new choice.

That's supposed to be what it's all about.

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Learning 6-max is +ev if you show a profit over the long run. These deep throughts have been provided to you free of charge by yours truly.

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So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit? Seriously now, get over it, learn 6 max, or learn full ring, because if you cant beat .5/1 you haven't learne either one

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So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit?

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Both games at this limit on Party are very beatable. Those who can't beat either should stay at 25NL or not play.

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So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit?

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Both games at this limit on Party are very beatable. Those who can't beat either should stay at 25NL or not play.

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adapt or die

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I absolutely refuse to believe this is true.

I have zero urge to go there and check out the games personally...but feel completely confident in my belief that if you think the party full-ring 0.5/1 games are 'unbeatable' or are merely 'tough' then you have two options:

1. Give up poker

2. Learn how to play



You have to consider the idea that most players at .5/1, even those who are just playing tight on full-ring tables, are typically not the type of player who reads the books or studies even semi-frequently.
Thus, if you continue to work on your game you SHOULD be able to play better poker than them.


Also - there's nothing wrong with 6-max and anyone who can't beat the full-ring games should learn some appropriate aggression. Thankfully, there's 5 and 6-max tables out there to help one do that.

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I haven't played a single full ring game since they started the .5/1 6-max, but I have a hard time believing this too. Has anyone else observed a change in the full ring games? Not that I'm ever going back.

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poker is about losing - 6 max is about losing the most

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

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I haven't played a single full ring game since they started the .5/1 6-max, but I have a hard time believing this too. Has anyone else observed a change in the full ring games? Not that I'm ever going back.

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Destroyed is the wrong word. However, it appears to have hurt them considerably.

Beatable? Of course. Plenty of decent to good tables? Sure. But ultra-juicy? Not anymore.

I've done a lot of bonus clearing over the past few months at .5/1.00 since I don't like to play my regular limits unless I'm sharp and concentrating, and my job has been wearing me out. It's usually pretty surprising to see less than 6-10 tables at 10BB or more average pot sizes. Yesterday, I played 423 hands at .5/1.00 and occaisionally one full ring game would hit 10BB pot average, and frequently there weren't any of that size on the list, not to mention no 11, 12, or 13 BB average pot size tables.

Small sample size though, and it wasn't during prime time.

--Zetack

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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The table vpip scores on party's .5/1 full have dropped well below 30, 20-25% is the norm, scores in the teens are not uncommon. Beatable? Probably. I didn't stick around long enough to find out.

The action has moved to 6max as far as .5/1 is concerned.

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6max poker is the cure for HIV and AIDS [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Being able to play SH is an essential skill. Atleast now it can be learned at a cheaper price for those who have smaller bankrolls. I am not going to play on Party until I get back home for my Vegas vacation, but I cannot wait to jump into these sure to be juicy games.

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I am definetely not a great player, but it is a BIG difference for my style to have a average pot from 9$ or from 5$ on a full ring 0,5 game

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Play nine max.

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I don't know if anyone has said this b/c I have not read the whole thread, but seriously dude, even with the 6 max games, if you can't beat full ring .5/1 then you might want to think about quitting poker. I'm not being mean, just serious.

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the party 30/60 game has an avg vpip of 25-26. i can't imagine that the typical .5/1 table is tighter. if this is really true, though, the tremendous rake at the .5/1 level would make the game very tough to beat.

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that's what i'm saying though.

if it is your 'style' that you can no longer beat the .5/1 game then the fact that these games are changing a little bit is a GOOD thing....because now you KNOW that this style just isn't very good poker.


The problem is NOT with the slightly tighter (but still bad) players that are at .5/1
The problem is with your inability to beat them.

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I have seen many tables at 0.5/1 that tight.
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I don't play for long at them of course.

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after scrolling through this whole post to get to the punch-line I laughed pretty hard.